60k內(含機殼喇叭OS), 3700x or 9900KF ? - 3C

By Victoria
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幫朋友問的QQ
他會在INTEL機和AMD機猶豫是因為, 華碩Z390主機板搭配同品牌顯示卡,
會送一張ROG電競椅, 剛好他也想要換一張不錯的椅子, 可是好椅子都價格上萬元xD
而INTEL機菜單比AMD多一千元, 但換得一張好椅子.
不然他原本就想組AMD機的, 他也知道3700x和9900KF理論上是不同等級,
但真的是為了椅子而猶豫不決, 所以他請我來發文詢問專業的電蝦鄉民們,
如果下面菜單有更好的推薦, 以及有對於兩種CPU的選擇見解,
也請不吝指教, 感謝大家.
==
已買/未買/已付訂金(元):未買/60k內
預算/用途:同時玩遊戲和開實況,
OBS設定為1600x900 @60FPS, x264 medium(or fast) 6000kbps
幫朋友看了幾個YouTube的測試影片, 如這個影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8dv0LT06qU
(不過這個影片是跟3900x去做比較就是了)
9900k在1080p@60fps x264 medium 6000kbps的設定時,
同時玩遊戲與實況, 在實況端似乎偶而會有不滑順的情況, 但遊戲端仍是滑順的.
但在1080p@60fps x264 fast 6000kbps的情況下, 就會非常滑順
而另外根據這個影片: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY2fbAzFiUE
可以得到以下的測試結果:
https://i.imgur.com/Syvn1W8.png
https://i.imgur.com/A1mZs9x.png
https://i.imgur.com/kvRCviP.png
可以發現在1080p@60fps x264 medium 6000kbps的情況下,
3700x和9900k的表現是幾乎一模一樣的, 在更苛刻的設定下兩者表現也都很接近
(有輸有贏)
當然以上主要是談論同時玩遊戲與實況之實況端的表現, 我朋友也很在意同時開實況時,
遊戲端的幀數是否能保持在一定水準.
但看了這個影片: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-deb7uIi9Gs
發現9900k在邊開實況與玩遊戲(APEX)的情況下, 遊戲端的幀數居然比3700x還低,
這個就讓我們有點意外就是了.
未開實況純玩APEX, 9900k有188FPS, 而3700x是152FPS, 但同時開實況下去,
3700x居然還有148FPS, 而9900k則是掉到126FPS.
平平都是8C/16T, 為何會有這樣的差別呢, 也還請電蝦的鄉民們講解一下.
總之, 考量到我朋友的用途, 還有多一張椅子的情況下,
各位究竟推薦3700x還是9900k呢?
以及, 若以下菜單有更好的推薦選擇, 也請不吝告知, 感謝.
CPU (中央處理器):AMD R7 3700X $11770
或是
Intel i9-9900KF $14500
MB (主機板):華碩ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING $7990 (若組AMD)
或是
華碩ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING $5990 (若組INTEL)
RAM (記憶體):CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 8G*2 D4-3200M C16 $3490
VGA (顯示卡):華碩 ROG-STRIX-RTX2060S-O8G-GAMING(1830MHz $15890
SSD (固態硬碟):金士頓 HyperX Fury RGB 240GB $1688
金士頓 HyperX Fury RGB 960GB $3990
HDD (硬碟):
DVD-RW (燒錄機):
PSU (電源供應器):海韻 Focus+ SSR-750FX(750W) $3390
CHASSIS (機殼):酷碼 MasterBox MB511 RGB $2290
MONITOR (螢幕):
Mouse/KB (鼠鍵):
其它 (自填):喇叭: J.S淇譽 JY-2063 木匠之音 2.0木質喇叭 $1890
OS: WIN 10家用64bit $3750
散熱器: 酷碼 MasterAir MA620P $1790
總價 (未稅/含稅):若是AMD機, 總價56358
若是INTEL機, 總價57458
注意1:自稱小妹或會透露自己性別的舉動要注意可能會引來不必要的紛擾,請注意。
注意2:標題是否有寫明"預算"、"用途"? 沒有請按Ctrl+x 然後按T改標題
注意3:請多加利用線上估價系統來進行估價以及價格查詢 (僅供參考)
禁止任何估價系統的連結,估價系統的估價單號
與估價系統網址的數字。視為估價單單號。
與相關包含手寫、excel、估價系統的擷圖連結。
購買套裝電腦者,發文及回應請自行打上原廠產品型號。
請勿張貼包含yahoo、pchome、udn、momo、autobuy、燦坤、三井、順發、良興等
國內網路通路連結。請以文字敘述。
以上只限制於本板相關物品,有爭議者由板務認定。
菜單文與情報文,禁止任何估價系統連結與擷圖、包含文字估價單號碼。
(參閱板規1-2-3、1-3-9)
違反者:刪文、水桶十日。
注意4:為保障您的權益,購物消費請索取統一發票,並盡量以含稅價取貨
注意5:若有任何問題請先洽詢板務。
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他會在INTEL機和AMD機猶豫是因為, 華碩Z390主機板搭配同品牌顯示卡,
會送一張ROG電競椅, 剛好他也想要換一張不錯的椅子, 可是好椅子都價格上萬元xD
而INTEL機菜單比AMD多一千元, 但換得一張好椅子.
不然他原本就想組AMD機的, 他也知道3700x和9900KF理論上是不同等級,
但真的是為了椅子而猶豫不決, 所以他請我來發文詢問專業的電蝦鄉民們,
如果下面菜單有更好的推薦, 以及有對於兩種CPU的選擇見解,
也請不吝指教, 感謝大家.
==
已買/未買/已付訂金(元):未買/60k內
預算/用途:同時玩遊戲和開實況,
OBS設定為1600x900 @60FPS, x264 medium(or fast) 6000kbps
幫朋友看了幾個YouTube的測試影片, 如這個影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8dv0LT06qU
9900k在1080p@60fps x264 medium 6000kbps的設定時,
同時玩遊戲與實況, 在實況端似乎偶而會有不滑順的情況, 但遊戲端仍是滑順的.
但在1080p@60fps x264 fast 6000kbps的情況下, 就會非常滑順
而另外根據這個影片: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY2fbAzFiUE
可以得到以下的測試結果:
https://i.imgur.com/Syvn1W8.png
https://i.imgur.com/A1mZs9x.png
https://i.imgur.com/kvRCviP.png
可以發現在1080p@60fps x264 medium 6000kbps的情況下,
3700x和9900k的表現是幾乎一模一樣的, 在更苛刻的設定下兩者表現也都很接近
(有輸有贏)
當然以上主要是談論同時玩遊戲與實況之實況端的表現, 我朋友也很在意同時開實況時,
遊戲端的幀數是否能保持在一定水準.
但看了這個影片: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-deb7uIi9Gs
發現9900k在邊開實況與玩遊戲(APEX)的情況下, 遊戲端的幀數居然比3700x還低,
這個就讓我們有點意外就是了.
未開實況純玩APEX, 9900k有188FPS, 而3700x是152FPS, 但同時開實況下去,
3700x居然還有148FPS, 而9900k則是掉到126FPS.
平平都是8C/16T, 為何會有這樣的差別呢, 也還請電蝦的鄉民們講解一下.
總之, 考量到我朋友的用途, 還有多一張椅子的情況下,
各位究竟推薦3700x還是9900k呢?
以及, 若以下菜單有更好的推薦選擇, 也請不吝告知, 感謝.
CPU (中央處理器):AMD R7 3700X $11770
或是
Intel i9-9900KF $14500
MB (主機板):華碩ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING $7990 (若組AMD)
或是
華碩ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING $5990 (若組INTEL)
RAM (記憶體):CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 8G*2 D4-3200M C16 $3490
VGA (顯示卡):華碩 ROG-STRIX-RTX2060S-O8G-GAMING(1830MHz $15890
SSD (固態硬碟):金士頓 HyperX Fury RGB 240GB $1688
金士頓 HyperX Fury RGB 960GB $3990
HDD (硬碟):
DVD-RW (燒錄機):
PSU (電源供應器):海韻 Focus+ SSR-750FX(750W) $3390
CHASSIS (機殼):酷碼 MasterBox MB511 RGB $2290
MONITOR (螢幕):
Mouse/KB (鼠鍵):
其它 (自填):喇叭: J.S淇譽 JY-2063 木匠之音 2.0木質喇叭 $1890
OS: WIN 10家用64bit $3750
散熱器: 酷碼 MasterAir MA620P $1790
總價 (未稅/含稅):若是AMD機, 總價56358
若是INTEL機, 總價57458
注意1:自稱小妹或會透露自己性別的舉動要注意可能會引來不必要的紛擾,請注意。
注意2:標題是否有寫明"預算"、"用途"? 沒有請按Ctrl+x 然後按T改標題
注意3:請多加利用線上估價系統來進行估價以及價格查詢 (僅供參考)
禁止任何估價系統的連結,估價系統的估價單號
與估價系統網址的數字。視為估價單單號。
與相關包含手寫、excel、估價系統的擷圖連結。
購買套裝電腦者,發文及回應請自行打上原廠產品型號。
請勿張貼包含yahoo、pchome、udn、momo、autobuy、燦坤、三井、順發、良興等
國內網路通路連結。請以文字敘述。
以上只限制於本板相關物品,有爭議者由板務認定。
菜單文與情報文,禁止任何估價系統連結與擷圖、包含文字估價單號碼。
(參閱板規1-2-3、1-3-9)
違反者:刪文、水桶十日。
注意4:為保障您的權益,購物消費請索取統一發票,並盡量以含稅價取貨
注意5:若有任何問題請先洽詢板務。
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