AMD Ryzen上市兩週後Intel這下慌了:無 - 3C

By Sierra Rose
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※ 引述《AKSN74 (AKS-74n)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《momogo11 (ヴァイオレット)》之銘言:
: : AMD Ryzen上市兩週後Intel這下慌了:無解!
: : 因為AMD Ryzen一改往日頹勢的強勁表現,外界期待Intel會因此“畏懼”,比如通過減價的方式應對。 但Intel官方隨後明確表態, 未來可期的一段時間內不會對處理器調價。
: : 當然,一些零售商的促銷行為被Intel認為是“自主激勵”,他們的出貨價其實並未做調整。
: : 據Fudzilla站長披露的幕後消息,Intel領導層的第一手“競爭情報”儘管運行良好, 但決策層缺乏合理的措施回擊。
: : 換言之, 他們並未考慮到Ryzen發布造成的事態嚴重性,顯得束手無策。
: : 報導稱,投資者和股東已經表達了擔憂,畢竟在物聯網和其他生態未能成長成堅實的部門時, PC處理器尤其是i7高端依然是重要的利潤支撐點。
: : 而AMD看到了消費者對高端CPU和DIY平台的需求增長,所以首波就直接對標,大家認為形勢非常不利。
: : --------------------------
: : http://news.mydrivers.com/1/524/524045.htm
: : Fudilla還用聖經的故事 大衛跟巨人哥利亞的戰鬥 來形容目前情況
: 這邊說一下個人的觀點
: 其實我不太認為Intel沒有考慮到Ryzen事態的嚴重性
: 而是就算知道嚴重性 Intel在目前可能也很難有對策能夠因應
這嚴重性是很模糊的問題
但是之前intel確實是沒有很認真的看待zen
也可以說整葛產業都沒有很認真看待zen 由其是那些主板廠
實際上包含許多amd員工這幾年也是毛毛的
大部分的人都是等到開賣惹才覺得挖好棒棒
intel對zen的反應有幾葛他悶本身的問題
一來intel管理階層最近才交班
一直在嘗試新的成長空間(衝自駕算是蠻正確的決定 之前ceo手機就真的慘敗惹QQ)
pc這塊也只能說得過且過
二來擠牙膏習慣惹
高IPC設計的大概就只能這樣
效能沒明顯增加 自然無法提升買氣
第三
現有結構下
大致上能多撈的方法策略都搞惹
這種狀況去修正策略 可能產生巨大變化
也就是說 殺價擋zen對獲利的衝擊難以預估
現階段KBL vs zen的架構態勢
大概接近當年c2d vs 龍2
或者說zen還比當年龍2更猛一點點
只看這部分的歷史記錄預估
intel營收衝擊大概在10%~15%左右
那對股價的衝擊就可能是20%~30%惹
投資人不可能無感
更深一層看
amd經過數年的組織改造
目前的成本&支出的彈性比當年強很多
蘇媽的策略也是直接瞄準intel毛利高的部分打
intel長年的高階爽賣低階賤賣的招行不通惹
歷來intel摸索新策略的陣痛期都是兩年起跳
HEDT&server的趨勢比較容易按過去經驗估計
如果轉到apu這部分 就很難說
然而
intel歷來營收起碼超過一半來自內顯cpu 大部分是筆電
即使製程比amd強一代
顯示部分大概起碼要兩代以上才能彌補
當年atom vs 喵喵已經示範過內顯爆輸會怎樣
所以我常常說zen apu是大決戰
真的要apu這波打完惹才知道結果是捨摸
大guy4這樣
認同請分享
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: ※ 引述《momogo11 (ヴァイオレット)》之銘言:
: : AMD Ryzen上市兩週後Intel這下慌了:無解!
: : 因為AMD Ryzen一改往日頹勢的強勁表現,外界期待Intel會因此“畏懼”,比如通過減價的方式應對。 但Intel官方隨後明確表態, 未來可期的一段時間內不會對處理器調價。
: : 當然,一些零售商的促銷行為被Intel認為是“自主激勵”,他們的出貨價其實並未做調整。
: : 據Fudzilla站長披露的幕後消息,Intel領導層的第一手“競爭情報”儘管運行良好, 但決策層缺乏合理的措施回擊。
: : 換言之, 他們並未考慮到Ryzen發布造成的事態嚴重性,顯得束手無策。
: : 報導稱,投資者和股東已經表達了擔憂,畢竟在物聯網和其他生態未能成長成堅實的部門時, PC處理器尤其是i7高端依然是重要的利潤支撐點。
: : 而AMD看到了消費者對高端CPU和DIY平台的需求增長,所以首波就直接對標,大家認為形勢非常不利。
: : --------------------------
: : http://news.mydrivers.com/1/524/524045.htm
: : Fudilla還用聖經的故事 大衛跟巨人哥利亞的戰鬥 來形容目前情況
: 這邊說一下個人的觀點
: 其實我不太認為Intel沒有考慮到Ryzen事態的嚴重性
: 而是就算知道嚴重性 Intel在目前可能也很難有對策能夠因應
這嚴重性是很模糊的問題
但是之前intel確實是沒有很認真的看待zen
也可以說整葛產業都沒有很認真看待zen 由其是那些主板廠
實際上包含許多amd員工這幾年也是毛毛的
大部分的人都是等到開賣惹才覺得挖好棒棒
intel對zen的反應有幾葛他悶本身的問題
一來intel管理階層最近才交班
一直在嘗試新的成長空間(衝自駕算是蠻正確的決定 之前ceo手機就真的慘敗惹QQ)
pc這塊也只能說得過且過
二來擠牙膏習慣惹
高IPC設計的大概就只能這樣
效能沒明顯增加 自然無法提升買氣
第三
現有結構下
大致上能多撈的方法策略都搞惹
這種狀況去修正策略 可能產生巨大變化
也就是說 殺價擋zen對獲利的衝擊難以預估
現階段KBL vs zen的架構態勢
大概接近當年c2d vs 龍2
或者說zen還比當年龍2更猛一點點
只看這部分的歷史記錄預估
intel營收衝擊大概在10%~15%左右
那對股價的衝擊就可能是20%~30%惹
投資人不可能無感
更深一層看
amd經過數年的組織改造
目前的成本&支出的彈性比當年強很多
蘇媽的策略也是直接瞄準intel毛利高的部分打
intel長年的高階爽賣低階賤賣的招行不通惹
歷來intel摸索新策略的陣痛期都是兩年起跳
HEDT&server的趨勢比較容易按過去經驗估計
如果轉到apu這部分 就很難說
然而
intel歷來營收起碼超過一半來自內顯cpu 大部分是筆電
即使製程比amd強一代
顯示部分大概起碼要兩代以上才能彌補
當年atom vs 喵喵已經示範過內顯爆輸會怎樣
所以我常常說zen apu是大決戰
真的要apu這波打完惹才知道結果是捨摸
大guy4這樣
認同請分享
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