AMD 微軟定製 APU vs intel 10nm CPU - 3C

George avatar
By George
at 2019-10-03T01:07

Table of Contents

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-surface-edition

蘇媽的大合照
https://i.imgur.com/N9GfCCd.jpg

APU 照
https://i.imgur.com/sxhIcnj.jpg

AMD 專為 M$ 定製的 12奈米 APU Ryzen 3780U 和 3580U的筆電 APU
用在最新發表的 Surface Laptop 3 15吋筆電裏面

https://i.imgur.com/VDbO6NJ.png

12奈米 Ryzen 3780U vs intel10奈米 1065G7的3D Mark的效能比較


3DMark11, 3DMark Timespy

AMD Ryzen™ 7 3780U Mobile Processor with Radeon™ RX Vega 11 Graphics
Microsoft Surface® Edition:
5124, 1126.5

Intel Core i7-1065G7: 4910 (4% less), 957 (18% less)

Intel Core i7-8665U: 2019.5 (154% less), 455.3 (147% less)

Intel Core i7-8565U: 2237.8 (129% less), 485.8 (132% less)

Ryzen 7 3700U: 4432.3 (15% less), 969 (16% less)

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Tags: 3C

All Comments

Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-10-03T17:32
用在筆電比較要擔心的應該是功耗和發熱
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2019-10-04T19:40
太神啦
David avatar
By David
at 2019-10-07T07:09
才15w@@
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2019-10-10T06:27
筆電15w正常吧 Intel u系列也是15w
David avatar
By David
at 2019-10-11T02:36
太神啦 叭叭叭
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-10-13T04:38
借轉WP板 謝謝
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-10-14T23:02
老黃：學我用12nm
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-10-15T18:11
光有VEGA就能多少應付遊戲需求了
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-10-17T04:47
真香
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2019-10-18T09:48
8代i7U有這麼爛喔
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-10-19T14:48
TDP大家都嘛標示的很好看
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2019-10-22T22:34
重點是實際運作續航和待機功耗吧
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2019-10-24T11:49
如果微軟這款能獲得消費者認同，應該會帶動OEM大批
跟進
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2019-10-27T01:29
T490(s)/T495(s)來說差不多了
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2019-10-31T13:30
Win筆電實測才算數，Win筆電能耗很吃OEM的優化
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2019-11-03T17:02
筆電來說光面板功耗就差很多了
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2019-11-03T20:46
處理器是個不小的變因但也不是絕對
zen+已經基本同個水準，看zen 2能到哪裡了
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-11-05T01:10
這款沒那麼重要拉 馬上下代7nm才比較有看頭
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-11-05T23:38
sunny cove ipc大概比zen 2高10趴，但不足以補平g
pu的差距
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2019-11-10T07:43
真的要看7nm
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-11-11T08:51
微軟本家遊戲優化也完全偏A了
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2019-11-16T05:22
Xbox本家遊戲一直都偏A
不是這兩年的事
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2019-11-19T05:43
不如說自從微軟的家機向AMD下單 之後 就偏到A那邊
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2019-11-20T17:53
這是比GPU啊
八代一定輸，十代之前吹的多猛
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2019-11-25T11:56
結果實測爛的要命，i家內顯就是爛
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-11-27T04:09
這個應該是用GF12，跟老黃沒啥關係
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-11-28T23:21
可惜來不及，不然直上7nm zen2更有看頭
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-12-03T05:00
比15W以內的效能AMD不會輸
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2019-12-03T22:28
AMD現在是桌面版拉不上去而已
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2019-12-07T10:53
但是3780U是用vega 11?這個客製化程度有點大，微軟
到底下了多少量才開這個案...
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-12-08T13:46
等出了之後的評測再說..amd在筆電的名聲...
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2019-12-09T05:55
先觀望，真的行就買一波資助A家
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-12-09T20:35
太猛了吧
David avatar
By David
at 2019-12-13T01:24
香
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2019-12-16T23:29
好扯 M軟居拋棄唉皇
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-12-17T22:29
微軟都用了，下一代APU用上zen2時其他廠商應該會跟
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2019-12-19T19:46
12nm Zen+還是PASS，不如Intel 10nm
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-12-20T03:46
M$應該不會砸自己的招牌 續航至少會調到不輸i家
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2019-12-21T02:18
居然放在比icelake貴的版本
David avatar
By David
at 2019-12-25T00:40
期待7nm apu
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2019-12-28T18:07
哇 攻進筆電市場了 因特爾怎麼辦啊
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2019-12-30T02:19
是想不到AMD還有閒人力可以搞12nm客製
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-01-02T11:46
我看所謂訂製，可能只是特挑，無關光罩
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-01-03T03:47
3780U如果只是特挑的話，3700U搞不好有機會開核
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-01-04T03:16
不是特挑，iGPU 是 Vega 11
和2400G/3400G一樣
2700U 3700U 的 iGPU 是 vega10
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2020-01-08T07:58
開核錢也要有BIOS可以給你刷啊
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2020-01-09T15:33
3580U iGPU 也提升到 vega9
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-01-13T01:07
Vega9/10/11其實就是同個Die挑出的
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-01-14T19:11
12nm APU都是同設計同晶圓片
John avatar
By John
at 2020-01-15T16:55
原本應該只是多數無法在指定TDP全開
關掉最廢的幾個CU
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-01-18T23:13
不是台GG製造的，不值得買
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-01-19T10:39
出7奈米APU再通知
intel 10奈米 10足過渡，等10nm+
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2020-01-22T04:50
12nm的圾垃 7nm再說
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2020-01-23T20:52
GF製造的 應該不用期待太多
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-01-27T00:51
這件事情的震撼點在於 連微軟這個盟友都跑票了
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2020-01-28T02:01
我倒覺得M$都在XBox系列上用A家的IP這麼久才導入A
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2020-02-01T17:15
家的APU/CPU給Surface用比較意外
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2020-02-05T05:06
現在沒有Sunny Cove的產品吧...... ICL還不是呢
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-02-08T19:16
等7nm桌機用APU 我要換機QQ
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2020-02-13T12:55
等7nm
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2020-02-16T22:02
MS在PC要顧慮與i皇的良好關係
所以除非風向超明顯不可逆...
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-02-20T14:11
才跟冷門AMD合作
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2020-02-25T13:12
Wintel體系的瓦解，由此開始？
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2020-02-25T22:32
AMD:用GF12讓你還贏不了
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-02-27T15:18
sunny cove ipc 已經公布了？
什麼時候可以買到
我很期待sunny cove
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2020-03-02T11:17
sunny cove就是icl再公啥 已經有產品跟實測了
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2020-03-04T14:48
ipc的確有增 不過頻率上不去被吃光光
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-03-09T06:07
他段重點是有調BIOS或AGESA讓DSP Always on而已吧
讓CPU睡下去的時候不要關掉DSP繼續監聽
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-03-11T14:24
十代裡面10nm的產品是ICL沒錯啊，是sunnycove
不過每瓦效能比自家的14nm還爛
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-03-14T04:35
i家這次內顯真的進步很多哦
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-03-15T23:54
intel 10nm根本不行 行的話就不會一直壓榨14nm了
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2020-03-17T14:02
好像還沒有品牌廠敢推10nm產品
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2020-03-17T15:23
GF12nm都被嫌熱了，intel 10nm更熱
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2020-03-21T07:29
10nm良率產能還不行,大廠想推也叫不到貨
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-03-22T11:14
只是至少比更慘的8121U黑歷史好多了
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-03-22T23:31
目前10nm+至少靠IPC能正面對抗14nm
內顯也沒像8121U有慘到全閹割掉
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2020-03-27T22:09
10nm再進化1次，大概就能正面對抗初代7nm
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-03-31T00:35
對 我搞錯了 SUNNY COVE 就是ICL
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2020-04-01T06:23
好慘喔牙膏10nm居然敗給了GF12nm，這誰敢信
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-04-02T02:16
不信，除非你跑贏pi
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2020-04-04T08:53
或許不是跑不贏 而是M$厭倦了每次都在幫堵漏洞..
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2020-04-05T15:10
MS幫AMD修東西也沒少過啊，我覺得純粹是AMD的解決方
案拿得上檯面了
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-04-08T01:39
12nm這代APU沒什麼不好啊
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-04-12T21:16
是不是一群人都沒看到這跑的是3Dmark呀？看到AMD贏
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2020-04-17T03:36
就先高潮一波再說
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-04-20T01:47
樓上可能要再看清楚一下，跑分上其實沒有贏I皇的新U
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-04-23T16:08
等NAVI版的出來再拉開
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-04-27T02:08
有Fluid Motion就好了，真爽
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-04-27T06:26
這只是ZEN+而已 怎可能贏
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-04-28T17:33
下一代7nm APU也會是GCN架構嗎？
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2020-04-30T00:51
只是這次MS不鳥I家，跟A弄新機，看了就爽（X
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-05-03T07:45
7nm的Renoir APU的內顯似乎仍是用VEGA
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2020-05-07T03:24
還用VEGA喔天啊
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-05-08T05:26
沒有不鳥啊 其他新產品也有用i
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-05-08T14:51
用VEGA才好，有動態補插，看A片很爽
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2020-05-11T07:03
FM正確用法喔XD
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2020-05-14T20:39
VEGA有FM，真香
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2020-05-18T02:59
看了F大補充 好期待！
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-05-19T19:24
辦公室應用 GPU根本沒差
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2020-05-21T03:34
skype事件發生後還有人覺得m軟最公正 跟intel最清
白 純粹技術考量不用按摩店喔 會不會太健忘？
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2020-05-22T09:10
gf12那垃圾幫牙膏廠的殘廢10nm舔鞋的資格都沒有
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2020-05-26T03:20
gf12nm拉到1.45v卡4.2g，10nm+拉到1.2v就4.1g了
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-05-29T17:08
不過這邊沒有要超頻吧
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2020-05-31T14:28
又沒要超頻
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-06-01T05:44
密度來講intel屌打GF吧
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2020-06-03T07:31
surface pro 有intel跟amd雙版本
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-06-04T04:39
Thermal Design Power 是看Leakage，不等同功秏

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