Apple認為TSMC與***的晶片只有2%電力差異 - iOS

By Thomas
at 2015-10-09T12:19
at 2015-10-09T12:19
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※ 引述《kyle5241 (kyle)》之銘言:
: 聽說台積電的晶片比三星的貴70%
: 假設三星的賣20美元
: 台積的賣34 美元
: 差 14 美元
: iPhone一台賣650美元
: 成本也只差2~3%
: 那蘋果怎不多用台積的?
: 反正2~3%沒差不是嗎?
根據一些分析師的報告,台積電的A9晶片報價大約是22美元
三星的報價不知道,有人說低30%,也有人說低50%
若用最保守的30%差距來說,三星的晶片是15美元
那麼,台積電和三星的晶片價格只差7美元
7/650=1.07%
蘋果是出了名的錙銖必較,不僅至少要有兩個供應商,而且還會逼供應商砍價到極致
例如,明明是已經蘋果確定的供應商,蘋果要求它們在中國沿海生產,以確保迅速出港
口供貨到世界各地,但是蘋果要求供應商的生產報價要比照中國內陸的勞工薪資水準.
大家都知道中國沿海和內陸的勞工薪資差了好幾倍,所以,蘋果就可以從供應商身上榨
出更多利潤
蘋果的慣性就是大量投單去培養供應商
然後,第二家或第三家供應商養大以後,蘋果就會要求供應商開始比價
若哪家供應商不願意降價的話,蘋果就立刻砍掉訂單,讓那家供應商的產能閒置,出現
虧損或甚至倒閉的風險.
蘋果拿那招對付了鴻海,和碩,緯創,逼得這些台商的毛利殺到見骨
這就是蘋果從三星移轉到台積電投單的原因之一
因為蘋果要同樣的招數對付台積電和三星
只不過,等到蘋果養出台積電的產能以後,開始要求台積電降價時
台積電竟然不鳥蘋果,這大概是有史以來第一個不甩蘋果的供應商
蘋果太過低估了台積電在晶圓代工超過50%全球市佔率的競爭優勢
台積電不只產品好到遠超過三星,而且台積電不怕產能閒置的問題
因為台積電一年要生產8,000多種晶片,就算蘋果晶片占了台積電20%的營收
蘋果轉單的話,建好的16nm產能還是有歐美和中國IC業者馬上排隊遞補進來
以這次供貨來說,台積電完全有產能應付蘋果需求
蘋果想全部轉給三星不成功,因為三星的產品差(加上良率差,供貨不足)
所以,最後,蘋果還是只能找台積電當救援投手
如果這次蘋果用較差的三星晶片,也沒有顧客抱怨的話
以後,蘋果就會一直用三星晶片了--反正即便是次級品,顧客照樣買單
但目前歐美顧客的反應遠比蘋果預料的更大
歐美顧客好幾天前就在討論如何退貨的問題了
據說有人爆料蘋果已經到台積電下急單
或許之後的台積電晶片比重會越拉越高
--
: 聽說台積電的晶片比三星的貴70%
: 假設三星的賣20美元
: 台積的賣34 美元
: 差 14 美元
: iPhone一台賣650美元
: 成本也只差2~3%
: 那蘋果怎不多用台積的?
: 反正2~3%沒差不是嗎?
根據一些分析師的報告,台積電的A9晶片報價大約是22美元
三星的報價不知道,有人說低30%,也有人說低50%
若用最保守的30%差距來說,三星的晶片是15美元
那麼,台積電和三星的晶片價格只差7美元
7/650=1.07%
蘋果是出了名的錙銖必較,不僅至少要有兩個供應商,而且還會逼供應商砍價到極致
例如,明明是已經蘋果確定的供應商,蘋果要求它們在中國沿海生產,以確保迅速出港
口供貨到世界各地,但是蘋果要求供應商的生產報價要比照中國內陸的勞工薪資水準.
大家都知道中國沿海和內陸的勞工薪資差了好幾倍,所以,蘋果就可以從供應商身上榨
出更多利潤
蘋果的慣性就是大量投單去培養供應商
然後,第二家或第三家供應商養大以後,蘋果就會要求供應商開始比價
若哪家供應商不願意降價的話,蘋果就立刻砍掉訂單,讓那家供應商的產能閒置,出現
虧損或甚至倒閉的風險.
蘋果拿那招對付了鴻海,和碩,緯創,逼得這些台商的毛利殺到見骨
這就是蘋果從三星移轉到台積電投單的原因之一
因為蘋果要同樣的招數對付台積電和三星
只不過,等到蘋果養出台積電的產能以後,開始要求台積電降價時
台積電竟然不鳥蘋果,這大概是有史以來第一個不甩蘋果的供應商
蘋果太過低估了台積電在晶圓代工超過50%全球市佔率的競爭優勢
台積電不只產品好到遠超過三星,而且台積電不怕產能閒置的問題
因為台積電一年要生產8,000多種晶片,就算蘋果晶片占了台積電20%的營收
蘋果轉單的話,建好的16nm產能還是有歐美和中國IC業者馬上排隊遞補進來
以這次供貨來說,台積電完全有產能應付蘋果需求
蘋果想全部轉給三星不成功,因為三星的產品差(加上良率差,供貨不足)
所以,最後,蘋果還是只能找台積電當救援投手
如果這次蘋果用較差的三星晶片,也沒有顧客抱怨的話
以後,蘋果就會一直用三星晶片了--反正即便是次級品,顧客照樣買單
但目前歐美顧客的反應遠比蘋果預料的更大
歐美顧客好幾天前就在討論如何退貨的問題了
據說有人爆料蘋果已經到台積電下急單
或許之後的台積電晶片比重會越拉越高
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