ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING - 3C

By Ivy
at 2018-11-28T16:42
at 2018-11-28T16:42
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※ 引述《suitup (回不去的從前)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《ryanl ( )》之銘言:
: : 有這張板子的詳細照片了.
: : https://youtu.be/uIgFG_SucEk
: : 之前官網的照片, 看起來讓人期待會是X470-F那樣的ASP1405I 6+2,
: : 結果TUF還是TUF, 依然是低階的ASP1106 4+2.
: 如果4+2是低階 那一票5k價位的x470也是低階了
破5K還4+3的只有G心Gaming 5而已, 其他家4+2的低階X470都5K有找好嗎?
華碩X470上4+2的只有TUF(怎麼又是TUF),
5K以上的Prime/Strix/C7H可都是6+2/倍相5+2全套英飛凌.
小星星X470上4+2的一樣只有Gaming Plus跟Gaming Pro,
5K以上的Carbon跟M7照樣都是5+2/倍相6+2英飛凌IR35201加上安森美MOS.
甚至是小石頭, 4+2的還是只有低階的X470, 像是Master SLI
跟一樣自己打壞招牌的Fatal1ty在用, 5K以上的太極照樣用
倍相6+2英飛凌IR35201加上德儀的NexFET.
: : 比起Plus進步只有三個地方
: : 1. VRM使用的MOS從每相一上兩下改為兩上兩下.
: : 2. Vcore堆了加倍的電感, 從四顆變成八顆.
: : 3. SoC VRM現在也有散熱片了.
: : 簡單說, 就是G心的AORUS M數電感跟小星星的MORTAR數MOS的合體,
: 你要這樣解讀也可以
: 但這供電規模就是跟x470 ultra gaming同等級
跟G心的低階X470同級是很值得驕傲的事嗎 XD
: 安森美兩上兩下兩電感 還有周全散熱
: 我認為跟上面那兩張是不同等級的
: 我不認為這樣的規模還算寒酸
: 難不成要看到Dr.Mos才滿意?
沒有人說他寒酸阿, 就只是在說最終華碩還是只端出一張低階裡勉強堪用的貨色.
: : AM4在M-ATX果然還是只有"你想吃屎嗎?"跟"要不要吃大便"這樣的選擇.
: Matx高階板就是票房毒藥
: 可能比itx好一點而已 這是趨勢 不用牽拖am4
ITX比M-ATX好多了, 至少三大廠抓到的平衡點是中階價位.
所以還是比較大方的在ITX板上堆料, ITX就算是4+2的G心, 這4+2都用上了全套英飛凌.
: : 不過也有個好消息, 三張B450的TUF都更新BIOS讓AGESA 1006上線了.
: 我是這樣看這張板子
: 1. TUF就是中低階電競 要找好料 不可能
: 能給你這樣的改款 還搭alc1220a 不錯了
: 2. 改款方向還算正確
: TUF主打耐用 供電加強 散熱加強 必須做的 這才符合耐用的初衷
: 另外這片的散熱有顧到電感 soc供電
: 要長期使用的真的可以考慮
: 反倒是燈效 debug code這些拔掉也好
: 這價位的用戶還不如賣便宜一點
沒說他不好啊, 就只是說他還是逃不出TUF的命, 沒有驚喜而已.
: 3. 無疑是目前最好的am4 matx
: 規格完勝 小星星迫擊炮 技嘉m
: bios也勝 1006上了
: 如果價格不差 是個好選擇
不否認他比迫擊砲好一些些, 但並沒有拉開多少差距,
就跟之前選迫擊砲一樣道理, 還是在一堆低階板裡挑一張勉強能用的而已.
G心就別管了, 三張裡面AORUS M是最兩光的.
: 4. 剛剛又發現
: 這張也是b450裡供電最強的一張
: 比b450f好不少 除非b450e有比較強
: matx板選擇不多
: 在matx=低階的潮流裡
: 華碩有這樣的改款誠意
: 很不錯了
B450-E應該也是相同邏輯, 4+2把MOS跟電感堆好堆滿.
12顆電感的分配, 如果不是4+2每相都堆兩顆,
就是C7H的倍相5+2配置法了...那得賣多少錢啊 XD
另外這張TUF Pro有一個需要要注意的點.
CPU提供的M2_1跟SATA5/6共用不意外, 但是B450拉出來的M2_2也跟SATA3/4共用.
好處是兩個M2都支援PCIe跟SATA, 但缺點就是插滿兩根M2, 就只剩下兩個SATA能用.
如果要插比較多硬碟的話, 要注意配置選擇, 盡量不要用M2.
--
: ※ 引述《ryanl ( )》之銘言:
: : 有這張板子的詳細照片了.
: : https://youtu.be/uIgFG_SucEk
: : 結果TUF還是TUF, 依然是低階的ASP1106 4+2.
: 如果4+2是低階 那一票5k價位的x470也是低階了
破5K還4+3的只有G心Gaming 5而已, 其他家4+2的低階X470都5K有找好嗎?
華碩X470上4+2的只有TUF(怎麼又是TUF),
5K以上的Prime/Strix/C7H可都是6+2/倍相5+2全套英飛凌.
小星星X470上4+2的一樣只有Gaming Plus跟Gaming Pro,
5K以上的Carbon跟M7照樣都是5+2/倍相6+2英飛凌IR35201加上安森美MOS.
甚至是小石頭, 4+2的還是只有低階的X470, 像是Master SLI
跟一樣自己打壞招牌的Fatal1ty在用, 5K以上的太極照樣用
倍相6+2英飛凌IR35201加上德儀的NexFET.
: : 比起Plus進步只有三個地方
: : 1. VRM使用的MOS從每相一上兩下改為兩上兩下.
: : 2. Vcore堆了加倍的電感, 從四顆變成八顆.
: : 3. SoC VRM現在也有散熱片了.
: : 簡單說, 就是G心的AORUS M數電感跟小星星的MORTAR數MOS的合體,
: 你要這樣解讀也可以
: 但這供電規模就是跟x470 ultra gaming同等級
跟G心的低階X470同級是很值得驕傲的事嗎 XD
: 安森美兩上兩下兩電感 還有周全散熱
: 我認為跟上面那兩張是不同等級的
: 我不認為這樣的規模還算寒酸
: 難不成要看到Dr.Mos才滿意?
沒有人說他寒酸阿, 就只是在說最終華碩還是只端出一張低階裡勉強堪用的貨色.
: : AM4在M-ATX果然還是只有"你想吃屎嗎?"跟"要不要吃大便"這樣的選擇.
: Matx高階板就是票房毒藥
: 可能比itx好一點而已 這是趨勢 不用牽拖am4
ITX比M-ATX好多了, 至少三大廠抓到的平衡點是中階價位.
所以還是比較大方的在ITX板上堆料, ITX就算是4+2的G心, 這4+2都用上了全套英飛凌.
: : 不過也有個好消息, 三張B450的TUF都更新BIOS讓AGESA 1006上線了.
: 我是這樣看這張板子
: 1. TUF就是中低階電競 要找好料 不可能
: 能給你這樣的改款 還搭alc1220a 不錯了
: 2. 改款方向還算正確
: TUF主打耐用 供電加強 散熱加強 必須做的 這才符合耐用的初衷
: 另外這片的散熱有顧到電感 soc供電
: 要長期使用的真的可以考慮
: 反倒是燈效 debug code這些拔掉也好
: 這價位的用戶還不如賣便宜一點
沒說他不好啊, 就只是說他還是逃不出TUF的命, 沒有驚喜而已.
: 3. 無疑是目前最好的am4 matx
: 規格完勝 小星星迫擊炮 技嘉m
: bios也勝 1006上了
: 如果價格不差 是個好選擇
不否認他比迫擊砲好一些些, 但並沒有拉開多少差距,
就跟之前選迫擊砲一樣道理, 還是在一堆低階板裡挑一張勉強能用的而已.
G心就別管了, 三張裡面AORUS M是最兩光的.
: 4. 剛剛又發現
: 這張也是b450裡供電最強的一張
: 比b450f好不少 除非b450e有比較強
: matx板選擇不多
: 在matx=低階的潮流裡
: 華碩有這樣的改款誠意
: 很不錯了
B450-E應該也是相同邏輯, 4+2把MOS跟電感堆好堆滿.
12顆電感的分配, 如果不是4+2每相都堆兩顆,
就是C7H的倍相5+2配置法了...那得賣多少錢啊 XD
另外這張TUF Pro有一個需要要注意的點.
CPU提供的M2_1跟SATA5/6共用不意外, 但是B450拉出來的M2_2也跟SATA3/4共用.
好處是兩個M2都支援PCIe跟SATA, 但缺點就是插滿兩根M2, 就只剩下兩個SATA能用.
如果要插比較多硬碟的話, 要注意配置選擇, 盡量不要用M2.
--
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