HTC M10官圖來了 網友:正面像三星 - 手機討論

Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2016-03-06T11:46

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HTC M10官圖來了 網友:正面像三星

外傳將於下月發表的HTC年度旗艦機M10,諜照滿天飛不夠看,知名爆料報達人@evleaks,
搶先揭露官圖等級的清晰圖片,還說產品名稱將拔掉M,更名為HTC 10,另一爆料達人
@OnLeaks則列出詳細規格,包括搭載高通S820處理器、5.15吋2K螢幕、Adreno 530圖像處
理器、4GB記憶體、1200萬畫素鏡頭,以及USB Type-C介面。

從曝光的照片來看,正面外型像A9,有實體Home鍵,沒有突兀的LOGO,少了三下巴,前幾
代強打的BoomSound前置雙喇叭似乎也被移除,機身切邊頗俐落,而產品圖現身後,網友表
示「正面像三星,還好機背保留M7後的一貫設計」、「正面雙喇叭改掉有點可惜」
(柯長錕/綜合報導)

蘋果即時新聞
http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/3c/20160305/809309/

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好啦其實如果光是看@evleaks所放出來的圖片的話,第一眼正面照的確還蠻像是三星的
而在規格上面則是由@OnLeaks揭露,HTC M10可能搭載高通S820處理器之外
還會配有2K螢幕、4G記憶體、1200萬畫素加上USB Type-C介面
不過最重要的應該還是在價格與電池續航力方面吧
如果手機用一用很快就沒電的話,其實還蠻麻煩的(′・ω・‵)

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Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2016-03-08T09:32
三星好看幾百倍好嗎
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-03-10T07:18
哪裡像三星了,和S7E或note5都不像啊
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2016-03-12T05:04
三星好看在哪 每台都長一樣
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2016-03-14T02:50
明明就是HTC的原創外型
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2016-03-16T00:36
後面那個切邊真的會那麼誇張嗎QQ
William avatar
By William
at 2016-03-17T22:22
比較像三星早期的手機啦
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-03-19T20:09
這切邊才是攻打媽媽市場的利器,和平底鍋很像
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-03-21T17:55
沒有雙前置喇叭...
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-03-23T15:41
垃圾10明明就是好幾年前的三星手機,醜死了!
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-03-25T13:27
正面像三星
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2016-03-27T11:13
boom sound和雙喇叭不見得有關係就是了,因為A9也有boomsound+Dolby
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2016-03-29T08:59
切邊大小獨樹一格 XD ... 等實機
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2016-03-31T06:45
要說像iPhone,哪裡像沒格調的三星
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2016-04-02T04:32
http://i.imgur.com/RSxuxHX.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Y4iupGz.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/b2GY06n.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/S1rNZma.jpg四色
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2016-04-04T02:18
http://i.imgur.com/6EPxr4y.jpg 比較一下
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2016-04-06T00:04
三星醜好幾百倍好嗎!
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2016-04-07T21:50
比較像大陸山寨三星的白牌機…喔我忘記這隻就是
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2016-04-09T19:36
其實指紋辨識在正面的話真的不管哪種形狀(圓 橢圓正方)都會有人說嘴 重點是希望他規格硬體該給的都把它給全吧
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-04-11T17:22
三星是進攻軍用市場利器,金屬破片手榴彈!
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2016-04-13T15:08
一般人印象就是正面home鍵圓的是蘋果,橢圓是三星
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2016-04-15T12:54
星形
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2016-04-17T10:41
我腸是背面指紋
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2016-04-19T08:27
背面指紋真的超爛設計XD
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2016-04-21T06:13
推文的圖還不錯看 有生火
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-04-23T03:59
超像三星
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2016-04-25T01:45
正面我覺得還OK,雖然完全放棄M7M8M9的血統有點可惜
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2016-04-26T23:31
三星比較醜吧
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2016-04-28T21:17
像三星?三星那正面醜不拉吉的三爽英文,全世界有哪個品牌這樣搞...
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2016-04-30T19:04
反問 放hTC有比較好嗎?
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-05-02T16:50
你是指正面還有哪家正面打出"三星"字樣的? 當然沒有
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2016-05-04T14:36
其實三下巴看久也是會習慣的 (?)三星LOGO的問題應該是太長了,LG跟HTC就沒那麼囉嗦
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2016-05-06T12:22
再反問 放LG的Mark有比較好嗎?
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2016-05-08T10:08
說穿了只是你對三星的偏見啊XDDD跟長度有什麼關係...Orz
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2016-05-10T07:54
看圖就覺得背後邊框好粗好難看喔
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2016-05-12T05:40
Htc 這logo最棒了
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2016-05-14T03:26
http://i.imgur.com/1QtOwXq.jpg
David avatar
By David
at 2016-05-16T01:13
三星鵝卵石醜死了好麻!
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2016-05-17T22:59
隨便找個人說就像喔!還有誰會喜歡被拿來和犯罪集團相提並論?走在路上突然被叫住說,路人說你長得好像陳進興,你會開心嗎?來點同理心吧
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2016-05-19T20:45
完全沒有特色,和對岸白牌機沒二樣
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2016-05-21T18:31
快倒了,因為很像
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2016-05-23T16:17
http://i.imgur.com/AYy9qyz.jpg
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2016-05-25T14:03
HTC終於覺得堅持自己的風格還不如抄大賣的嗎(嘆)
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2016-05-27T11:49
沒錯 誰會喜歡被這樣說!把國際大廠的設計說的跟走不出台灣的魯蛇品牌一樣 太過了
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2016-05-29T09:36
Htc logo害死多少人,多少人為了它,打出注音文
David avatar
By David
at 2016-05-31T07:22
然後就被我桶了(遮臉
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2016-06-02T05:08
沒雙喇叭pass,M8再戰10年
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2016-06-04T02:54
樓上壞人(咦?啊 被插樓
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2016-06-06T00:40
記者眼睛有問題? 這比三星好看多了...
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-06-07T22:26
明明就不像...
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-06-09T20:12
如果是早期蘋果告人標準看,真的就是像三星啊
William avatar
By William
at 2016-06-11T17:58
老實說我反而懷念起補丁風了...
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2016-06-13T15:45
反而很有特色?
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2016-06-15T13:31
一樣買黑色安定
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2016-06-17T11:17
好多人崩潰
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2016-06-19T09:03
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-06-21T06:49
就同眼同鼻同醫生 大多數人的美感喜歡什麼樣 就整成那樣
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2016-06-23T04:35
抄才是王道啊 看s6抄iphone終於銷售止血
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-06-25T02:21
好多迷迷崩潰 ***海放單眼要有點自信啞
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2016-06-27T00:08
***比較好看
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2016-06-28T21:54
三星那樣明明比較好看……當然拿掉Logo更好
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2016-06-30T19:40
我覺得整隻手機都看不到字樣的商標最好
Una avatar
By Una
at 2016-07-02T17:26
切邊這麼厚太扯了
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2016-07-04T15:12
三星的logo好看多了
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2016-07-06T12:58
樓上正解(誤
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2016-07-08T10:44
只有我覺得金色還不錯嗎?
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2016-07-10T08:30
背面像hTC
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2016-07-12T06:17
正面是挺像早期三星的
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-07-14T04:03
有些網友已經不自覺(或是根本故意)當了最●的隊友惹
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-07-16T01:49
三星log害死多少人,多少家庭因為三爽英文要念same宋還是珊舜而引發失和,如害人家破人亡不可恥嗎?
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2016-07-17T23:35
明明除了指紋外,像Apple才對。
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2016-07-19T21:21
也只有home鍵像三星,但外型其實比三星好看
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2016-07-21T19:07
記者有事嗎 三星好看多了
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2016-07-23T16:53
學人家也學的好看一點..這台我看還是不要帶出門丟臉
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2016-07-25T14:40
HOME 鍵作成圓型會被apple告死,只好作楕圓
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-07-27T12:26
三星當初也是這樣
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-07-29T10:12
M8再戰10年!!!!
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2016-07-31T07:58
明明比較像白牌機
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-08-02T05:44
17樓那個顏色質感感覺不錯
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2016-08-04T03:30
個人覺得三星比較醜
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2016-08-06T01:16
我比較想知道他的大小尺寸...
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2016-08-07T23:02
看起來這串覺得三星比較醜的好像比較多,到底PTT這次的風向是否正確,讓我們繼續看下去
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2016-08-09T20:49
尺寸看圖量一下就知道啦,剛好有人手癢放了S7和HTC10的比較圖,額頭下巴大概上下加起來多1公分吧
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2016-08-11T18:35
這下巴有點猛
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2016-08-13T16:21
老實說外型跟實際銷售量是差很多的
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2016-08-15T14:07
除了S5例外...
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2016-08-17T11:53
三星好看多了好唄 拿HTC這貨色來比
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2016-08-19T09:39
光金屬質感跟玻璃就差十萬八千里了。
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2016-08-21T07:25
大家都說ptt看世界 所以三星還是最棒
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2016-08-23T05:12
拿三星來比是故意的吧!三星外型比較好欺負嗎?找個強的打吧!
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2016-08-25T02:58
不然要找哪一隻,哀鳳嗎
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-08-27T00:44
S7e 明明神好看 htc那切邊醜到渣..
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2016-08-28T22:30
實機還沒出來就在帶風向,真是不容易啊
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2016-08-30T20:16
為什麼不抄阿婆的home鍵
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2016-09-01T18:02
實體鍵回歸了?
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2016-09-03T15:48
因為others會被告到脫褲...
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2016-09-05T13:34
HTC和Apple有交換授權,不會有事
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2016-09-07T11:21
背面切邊好醜
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2016-09-09T09:07
不然A9早就出事了
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2016-09-11T06:53
笑了 一堆xxx崩潰
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2016-09-13T04:39
比較圖上htc home鍵好像比較偏膠囊形 s家的偏圓角長方形
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2016-09-15T02:25
還沒發表就一直說醜,都還沒說S7直接COPY S6的外觀設計呢!
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-09-17T00:11
直接copy但不醜阿XD 樓上舉的例子好像怪怪的
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2016-09-18T21:57
我也覺得哀鳳6s copy哀鳳6的外型很沒有道德
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2016-09-20T19:44
那M9複製M8的外觀設計?
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2016-09-22T17:30
好厚,不這樣切一定感覺更厚
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2016-09-24T15:16
A9難怪XDDD 感謝更新
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2016-09-26T13:02
厚切比較好吃
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2016-09-28T10:48
拿三星來比 是不是太抬舉HTC 三星好看多了這隻後面也太難看了吧
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2016-09-30T08:34
就跟三星一樣醜啊…到底好看在哪裡
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2016-10-02T06:20
安卓界的哀鳳~ 果然名不虛傳
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2016-10-04T04:06
注重屏占比可以的變化就那樣 只是誰先做罷惹
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2016-10-06T01:53
螢幕佔比更高的LG手機也是長這樣嗎
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2016-10-07T23:39
樓上不要這樣打臉 我怎麼不知oppo有出三星外型
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2016-10-09T21:25
以上推文各種腸黑星黑果黑但好像沒看到索黑
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2016-10-11T19:11
索尼有出手機嗎?
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2016-10-13T16:57
X Performance & X & XA
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-10-15T14:43
說比三星好看的要不要看個眼科扣掉三星的字你分得出來算你強
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2016-10-17T12:29
邊切完0.9厚度,手感像0.7 讚
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-10-19T10:16
推squall 長的都差不多 哪有什麼誰比較好看 XD要不就一樣好看 要不就一樣醜
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2016-10-21T08:02
幹,我要雙喇叭啦!M8再戰十年!!
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-10-23T05:48
這隻真的不錯看
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2016-10-25T03:34
嫌貨才是買貨人 說醜的都希望大家不要跟他搶啦~
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2016-10-27T01:20
三星那種設計的就別拿出來說嘴了,htc好看太多
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2016-10-28T23:06
三星明明好看多了
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2016-10-30T20:52
有點厚度orz
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2016-11-01T18:38
這隻跟M7 M8比起來 難看很多 厚度也很厚
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2016-11-03T16:25
覺得醜的拜託不要買 留給我買
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2016-11-05T14:11
是工藝技術不如人嗎? copy別人外型 但卻這麼厚
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2016-11-07T11:57
有些厚度 不過不難看 還不錯
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2016-11-09T09:43
三星沒一隻外型是我覺得好看的........
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2016-11-11T07:29
M7再戰十年!!!
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-11-13T05:15
三星超醜
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2016-11-15T03:01
覺得正面改的不錯
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2016-11-17T00:48
好像htc永遠都是抄別人的吼O___O
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2016-11-18T22:34
真的沒有人強迫你要買喔!倒角太讚了
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2016-11-20T20:20
在沒摸到實機之前,不予置評。
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2016-11-22T18:06
三星真的很醜,而且堅持所有手機做一樣醜
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2016-11-24T15:52
背面不錯,正面保守
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2016-11-26T13:38
都很像iphone怎麼辦
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2016-11-28T11:24
沒正面雙喇叭的HTC,我真不太敢領教,前一隻HTC ONE喇叭在後面,每次手機放桌上就必須正面向下放,不然聲音根本小聲像貓叫…跟現正使用的M8真的是差太多了!!!
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2016-11-30T09:10
還我正面logo!!!!
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2016-12-02T06:57
三星好看多了
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2016-12-04T04:43
這次真的好看 酸酸只會在那邊為酸而酸
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2016-12-06T02:29
三星也有資格說別人抄它,apple快笑暈了
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2016-12-08T00:15
三星和人家講美感猶如講中國不獨裁美國愛好和平
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2016-12-09T22:01
三星抄蘋果 頻果抄HTC HTC抄三星 有循環 不錯
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2016-12-11T19:47
三星多久前就用了這設計了 當然是抄阿
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-12-13T17:33
怕這串文消失,我再放一次 喚醒大家http://i.imgur.com/6EPxr4y.jpg 比較一下
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-12-15T15:20
說真的 唯一像的是HOME鍵 M9+HOME鍵也很像三星
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2016-12-17T13:06
真的很像
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-12-19T10:52
汽車不就四顆輪子, 要不然手機正面是怎麼創新設計一個連HTC設計師都會去找你膜拜的圖給大家看
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2016-12-21T08:38
說好的下巴呢
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2016-12-23T06:24
全黑感覺不賴 其實我覺得挺好看的 科
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2016-12-25T04:10
apple還有資格說別人抄他?一些專利不是都被判無效?
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By Ula
at 2016-12-27T01:56
不像三星的高價機 三星質感好多了 比較像三星的低價機
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By Delia
at 2016-12-28T23:42
手機正面...看看LG看看SONY看看Moto看看Lumia
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By Hedy
at 2016-12-30T21:29
再看看三星和蘋果的正面...不過HTC抄HOME鍵真的該死
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By Hedy
at 2017-01-01T19:15
三星像蘋果已經不是新聞,都幾年了但現在是,HTC你誰的不抄抄.....XDDD
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By Hamiltion
at 2017-01-03T17:01
明明HTC的比較好看 ***才超醜好嗎......
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By Madame
at 2017-01-05T14:47
充其量也只能說像Apple什麼時候輪得到三星了,不過什麼不像去像個醜斃的home 鍵
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By Anthony
at 2017-01-07T12:33
三星那個圓角也是抄iPhone才被高過而已
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By Frederica
at 2017-01-09T10:19
除了三星的logo以外正面有哪邊不同為什麼htc就是好看三星就是醜?
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By Lily
at 2017-01-11T08:05
因為顏色不對,如果很多事情都用先入為主的觀念去看,就會發生現在的狀況,明明相似度極高,卻有完全不同的評價
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By Kyle
at 2017-01-13T05:52
這種風氣養成對台灣不是好事
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By Jacky
at 2017-01-15T03:38
超像三星早期的好嗎 h粉是不給酸喔 酸一下就崩潰講得像蘋果就比較有格調一樣 事實就是你們抄人家的 面對現實好嗎 真讓人難過
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By Daniel
at 2017-01-17T01:24
爽粉大崩潰
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By Noah
at 2017-01-18T23:10
根本就是NOTE2......那個圓弧金屬漆邊邊、格局、聽筒設計如出一轍
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By Daniel
at 2017-01-20T20:56
把M10的殼修一下放在NOTE2後面認得出來?
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By Annie
at 2017-01-22T18:42
htc 10真的是有質感多了
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By Daniel
at 2017-01-24T16:28
HTC 10快出吧,期待好久了~
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By Skylar Davis
at 2017-01-26T14:14
好美!!!!!!
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By Mary
at 2017-01-28T12:01
為什麼每家手機都變那麼醜拉

hTC Ice View

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By Lucy
at 2016-03-06T11:31
剛剛無聊看了一下10的爆料資訊 發現了Ice View 感覺好像是要出新的保護套? http://goo.gl/r7Wdx0 http://i.imgur.com/V9bgi9M.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SpAoCoM.jpg ----- Sent from JPTT on ...

Sony Xperia Z3 一年使用心得

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By Quanna
at 2016-03-06T11:09
擁有Z3一年多 目前沒有送修經驗 前篇優點說了很多,來說說致命性缺點吧 1. 外型美觀 所以不想用保護套,握起來手感很滑 萬一真的手滑就GG 不過好險從桌子上摔過兩次都無損...... 2. 記憶卡存取速度鎖定30MB/s WTF 我還買90MB/s的MicroSD耶 興沖沖買回 ...

想換APPLE產品整新機?

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By Selena
at 2016-03-06T11:07
作者創作理念(12:43秒起) https://youtu.be/Un6JuCZLkD4 無聊看到的作品, 只展到03/13,不知道可不可在此之前弄壞。 如果有版友想要換可以帶去北美館試試, 一直強力按電源按鍵使得電源鍵壞掉, 只是作者也有免責聲名。 http://imgur.com/G6G4 ...

3G吃到飽方案?

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By Andrew
at 2016-03-06T11:04
標題無[]分類者水桶三天,尤其是手機發文者須特別注意! 問題文請盡量集中於一篇,勿分散於多篇發文造成板面混亂。  如有內文無意義之發文,依照板規懲處。 a. 文摘:按下鍵盤左邊的TAB,可以看到本板文摘。 b. 搜尋功能:在文章列表按下「/」可使用關鍵字搜尋 c. M文:按下大寫G,再按m, ...

請問htc M9手機上方鬧鐘提示無法消去原因

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By Tom
at 2016-03-06T10:41
系統是android6,sense7,內建的鬧鐘明明沒設定卻都一直顯示在上面無法消去,看了很 礙眼,以前是都有設定才會顯示在上面,請問板上大大這是什麼問題嗎?  http://i.imgur.com/6F4GGGq.jpg 標題無[]分類者水桶三天,尤其是手機發文者須特別注意! 問題文請盡量集中於一篇,勿 ...