m8換iphone7三天心得 - 手機討論

By Adele
at 2017-02-09T15:17
at 2017-02-09T15:17
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推文裡面我已經詳述過為什麼不推sony手機
想不到AnKuo看不懂
這裡就來一一破解
首先看他的推文
推 Ankuo : 光源一差,有OIS的手機就變得沒問題了? 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : KB是被盜帳號嗎?怎麼出現這麼荒謬的結論 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 我們挑手機照相就看OIS不然就HDR+這麼簡單? 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 我很客觀的,雖然我現在有Sony跟iPhone 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 但論照相我也不是一定推這兩牌 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 但看規格就無腦推或無腦刪適合每個人嗎 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 否則問機文幹嘛講需求? 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 板上我曾推過拍小孩要用Sony是長期拿過20隻以上的智 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 慧機的心得 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 而且我也只會針對我拿過的型號 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 沒拿過即使同品牌我不敢推也不會推 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 所以無法認同沒拿過就不推,但看到有OIS就改成推的 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 這種做法 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 畢竟KB大的照相經驗在本版是權威性的人物 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 補充一下就算是Sony旗艦我也只建議在拍愛動的小孩會 02/09 13:47
→ Ankuo : 大幅降低模糊,模糊的照片會導致根本不能用,這是擁 02/09 13:47
→ Ankuo : 有很多隻手機的親身經驗,不是看規格來的 02/09 13:47
居然有人來跟我討打 我就一個一個來打你
首先你就不用跟我嘴怎麼拍小孩了
論拍小孩、寵物這種會動的東西 本人還寫過教學文
我想我不但比你懂原理 也懂實作
這裡就讓我來破解你的ois無用論
首先一開始推文討論&針對的對象都是旗艦機
既然對象都是旗艦 自然用手機用高標準來看
首先講為什麼版友都喜歡說sony油畫
因為Sony專門用高畫素造成但一pixel size很小
這就是首先第一步物理限制 高畫素者高iso很難好 天生SNR就不太一樣
當然可能因應世代不同 有什麼黑科技限制
問題是
Sony一路從Z5 -> XZ 經過查詢都還在用同一顆IMX300
經過這麼多年我們已經可以確認
imx300天生的雜訊還是偏高的 所以sony為了掩蓋雜訊只能大量抹除
這就是油畫感來源
光源充足的日拍尚且如此 那到了光源不足處呢?
有OIS的手機 可以利用低iso+慢快門
無OIS的手機 只能利用高iso+高速快門
(為了亮度可能還不能太快 不然不是畫面太暗 再來就是手震)
再加上imx300本身在高iso上也沒有優勢
請問畫質能比較好嗎!???? 怎麼可能
再搭配上Sony本身M模式也是做的哩哩辣辣
沒操作性沒畫質優勢只有高畫素
你告訴我為什麼要選Sony手機????
至於HDR+是黑科技 利用演算法
在光源不足處 他也可以低iso+安全快門
我是正常人類 公正客觀一般消費性使用者
會怎麼挑手機相機 很明顯吧wwwwwww
誰跟你說我得到簡單荒謬的結論
在同樣是旗艦等級的狀況下
(其實就算不是旗艦也可以)
沒事幹 我挑一隻沒OIS沒高iso,也沒有特殊演算法處理的手機相機
我自虐幹嘛.....
這叫做無腦推?
是誰不經思考就先罵人 很明顯吧
--------------------------------------------
至於拍小孩要怎麼玩法 本人寫過的文章 #1OJavY53
就不再贅述
--
推文裡面我已經詳述過為什麼不推sony手機
想不到AnKuo看不懂
這裡就來一一破解
首先看他的推文
推 Ankuo : 光源一差,有OIS的手機就變得沒問題了? 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : KB是被盜帳號嗎?怎麼出現這麼荒謬的結論 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 我們挑手機照相就看OIS不然就HDR+這麼簡單? 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 我很客觀的,雖然我現在有Sony跟iPhone 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 但論照相我也不是一定推這兩牌 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 但看規格就無腦推或無腦刪適合每個人嗎 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 否則問機文幹嘛講需求? 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 板上我曾推過拍小孩要用Sony是長期拿過20隻以上的智 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 慧機的心得 02/09 13:43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
→ Ankuo : 而且我也只會針對我拿過的型號 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 沒拿過即使同品牌我不敢推也不會推 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 所以無法認同沒拿過就不推,但看到有OIS就改成推的 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 這種做法 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 畢竟KB大的照相經驗在本版是權威性的人物 02/09 13:43
→ Ankuo : 補充一下就算是Sony旗艦我也只建議在拍愛動的小孩會 02/09 13:47
→ Ankuo : 大幅降低模糊,模糊的照片會導致根本不能用,這是擁 02/09 13:47
→ Ankuo : 有很多隻手機的親身經驗,不是看規格來的 02/09 13:47
居然有人來跟我討打 我就一個一個來打你
首先你就不用跟我嘴怎麼拍小孩了
論拍小孩、寵物這種會動的東西 本人還寫過教學文
我想我不但比你懂原理 也懂實作
這裡就讓我來破解你的ois無用論
首先一開始推文討論&針對的對象都是旗艦機
既然對象都是旗艦 自然用手機用高標準來看
首先講為什麼版友都喜歡說sony油畫
因為Sony專門用高畫素造成但一pixel size很小
這就是首先第一步物理限制 高畫素者高iso很難好 天生SNR就不太一樣
當然可能因應世代不同 有什麼黑科技限制
問題是
Sony一路從Z5 -> XZ 經過查詢都還在用同一顆IMX300
經過這麼多年我們已經可以確認
imx300天生的雜訊還是偏高的 所以sony為了掩蓋雜訊只能大量抹除
這就是油畫感來源
光源充足的日拍尚且如此 那到了光源不足處呢?
有OIS的手機 可以利用低iso+慢快門
無OIS的手機 只能利用高iso+高速快門
(為了亮度可能還不能太快 不然不是畫面太暗 再來就是手震)
再加上imx300本身在高iso上也沒有優勢
請問畫質能比較好嗎!???? 怎麼可能
再搭配上Sony本身M模式也是做的哩哩辣辣
沒操作性沒畫質優勢只有高畫素
你告訴我為什麼要選Sony手機????
至於HDR+是黑科技 利用演算法
在光源不足處 他也可以低iso+安全快門
我是正常人類 公正客觀一般消費性使用者
會怎麼挑手機相機 很明顯吧wwwwwww
誰跟你說我得到簡單荒謬的結論
在同樣是旗艦等級的狀況下
(其實就算不是旗艦也可以)
沒事幹 我挑一隻沒OIS沒高iso,也沒有特殊演算法處理的手機相機
我自虐幹嘛.....
這叫做無腦推?
是誰不經思考就先罵人 很明顯吧
--------------------------------------------
至於拍小孩要怎麼玩法 本人寫過的文章 #1OJavY53
就不再贅述
--
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