PCIe Gen3/Gen4是否會造成RTX3080的瓶頸? - 3C

Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-09-17T09:40

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評測解禁後,很快也有RTX3080搭配Intel (10900K)和AMD (3900XT)的比較...
其實在之前多數遊戲評測上都可以清楚知道,在這部分的應用,還是Intel略勝一籌,
所以這個交叉評測主要重點在於目前兩家分別最高支援PCIe Gen 3和PCIe Gen 4,
到底會不會對於效能大躍進的RTX3080產生實際上的瓶頸與影響。


We already have a general idea of how the Ryzen 9 3900XT compares to the
i9-10900K when tested with a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti in its dedicated review of
the processor. However, one of the questions we're trying to answer is
whether PCIe Gen 4 helps the 3900XT gain on the i9-10900K. Our testing data
should also give you insights into whether the Ryzen 9 3900XT suits your
needs as a gaming and productivity machine combined, in which your line of
work can benefit from the extra two cores.

在這部分的測試,從評測結果可以得知PCIe Gen3/4幾乎沒影響,也就是說即使是RTX 3080,
也還無法撐到PCIe Gen 3的頻寬上限...

After finishing the "normal at stock" testing, I got curious about how much
of the performance difference can be attributed to the PCI-Express link speed
advantage Ryzen has over the i9-10900K. Remember, Intel's Comet Lake CPUs
still max out at PCI-Express Gen 3. The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 introduces
PCIe 4.0 support, so the assumption could be that Ampere will work better on
AMD CPUs than on Intel, because the former support the faster PCI-Express Gen
4 mode. That's what the second AMD data point is for, colored in light red.
However, we see only minor differences that average out to 1% vs. the Gen 4
results, no matter the resolution. Even the RTX 3080 isn't anywhere close to
saturating the PCI-Express Gen 3 interface so that Gen 4 could provide an
increase in performance.

有興趣可以看下面評測原文:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 with AMD Ryzen 3900XT vs. Intel Core i9-10900K
https://reurl.cc/2gWoRr


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Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-09-19T22:02
所以10700打遊戲還是夠虐AMD了 (茶
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2020-09-21T12:47
之前那個造謠仔說要4.0才能跑的可以水桶了吧?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-09-22T09:24
幾乎都沒差多少..
2k以上甚至差不到5%
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-09-26T08:56
本身cpu對fps的影響也就只有幾%了 遊戲瓶頸還是在
gpu上 討論遊戲cpu哪家強根本就假議題
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2020-09-29T06:01
pcie4的ssd讓你讀4k材質圖更快搞不好還差比較多
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-09-30T17:45
@aria0520 話倒也不是這樣講的 你把解析度和特效都
調低其實瓶頸可能就在CPU了
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-10-04T15:11
只是一般最大眾的螢幕是60fps,這個範圍通常瓶頸
就會是GPU
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-10-06T03:35
所以發表會用intel CPU做Demo啊 可能要等RTX IO吧
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2020-10-09T15:06
https://i.imgur.com/xN0VHx1.jpg
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-10-13T00:12
SATA跟PCIE SSD的遊戲讀取都差沒多少了 4.0哪有感
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-10-14T12:05
我是覺得會買到3080的應該都2k144起跳
有啦 次世代的4k遊戲理論上就有影響了
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2020-10-16T10:05
他發表會用 Intel 還 AMD CPU沒差啦 這兩者差不多
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2020-10-18T02:33
明年 DirectStorage 如果真的release就可以差很多了
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-10-21T18:40
除此之外次世代遊戲機上的3A應該也可以期待物件
會比以前多。以前是CPU著實爛
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-10-26T10:06
看來差距是無感的程度,這樣CPU 也不一定要3700X了
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-10-28T12:21
3700x 就 便宜 + 功耗表現佳
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-11-02T02:02
3700x跟10700F比 也沒有比較便宜阿
10700F玩遊戲的功耗也沒多可怕 又不是在燒FPU
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-11-03T04:36
奇怪 台灣3700x訂價稍微高了些
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2020-11-06T12:32
奧德賽測試...這優化很差 可以看看別的遊戲差異
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-11-09T15:11
可以期待zen3在遊戲方面超車
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-11-11T07:06
不知道用在4750G這種的如果關閉內顯是不是也是跑3.0
x16
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-11-15T07:27
CPU應該會顯著影響在一些需要高FPS的遊戲
電競遊戲
尤其現在還有360HZ的螢幕
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-11-18T05:22
所以沒必要買X570的板子惹?
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2020-11-21T22:29
要吧 升級到ZEN3
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-11-22T04:20
B550就好了啊
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2020-11-25T01:41
B550也是PCIE4.0阿
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-11-27T09:50
高fps更吃gpu
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-11-29T00:31
瓶頸是我的錢包QQ
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-12-01T10:55
MMO很吃CPU,其他基本上只看GPU
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2020-12-05T08:04
ZEN3快惹 等ZEN3 或是明年i家的GEN 11
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-12-08T14:12
Intel 沒附散熱器 價格不能只看帳面
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-12-10T17:45
這時間點選個沒PCIe4的兩年後一樣要換
James avatar
By James
at 2020-12-11T01:09
跟之前吹四核心夠用一樣啦
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2020-12-12T06:11
沒人看圖嗎 如果1080P瓶頸是CPU的話 那AMD 跑Anno
用3080還輸2070 奧德賽FPS輸10以上 這代表AMD CPU
實際效能?
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2020-12-15T05:40
你真的需要好好看圖
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2020-12-19T16:51
不就早知道的事 2080TI只吃到3.0一半多一點
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-12-21T14:44
要吃爆3.0講簡單點就要有2080TI兩倍效能
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-12-24T05:14
我先繼續等3090測試結果再決定
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-12-29T03:01
3090 剩不到10天
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2020-12-30T20:00
根本竹竿喇古井
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-01-03T06:59
新儲存api出來再看吧?
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2021-01-08T03:32
等3090 跟zen3 再說
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2021-01-10T11:43
還在猶豫要不要整套打掉 ~"~
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-01-13T04:28
推intel的要先加上塔散的錢唷
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2021-01-14T11:08
純玩遊戲首選還是INTEL
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2021-01-18T11:42
其實就算有原廠散熱器 還是有人買塔散來用
12cm一堆不到千元的 效果也不差
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2021-01-19T16:16
我最近買過的AMD CPU也沒一個有散熱器QQ
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-01-23T15:56
3950x沒有QQ
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-01-28T01:27
包裝裡面是一塊大塊泡棉
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2021-01-29T02:56
pcie4.0目前最大的功用就是可以用x4給m.2
這樣消費平台也可以多裝幾根滿血版的SSD了
David avatar
By David
at 2021-01-30T07:14
不然3.0x4給某些ssd跑會超過頻寬
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2021-02-03T17:01
(概估line rate) PCIe 4.0 1-lane = 16Gbps = 2GBps
; 16-lane = 32GBps
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-02-04T16:56
一直再吹4.0的不用桶嗎?
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-02-09T12:56
就遊戲性能輸 只能改嘴PCIE4.0遊戲好棒棒
這下可好了 褲子還是被沖走了
David avatar
By David
at 2021-02-09T20:28
所以intel才沒硬推可能產品生命週期內都用不到的東
西
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-02-12T08:55
2080可能頂到的2.0最後一代已經是SNB系列了
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-02-13T07:56
除了瘋狂測試者,沒人會刻意跨這麼多代配顯卡
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2021-02-13T13:07
Intel一定知道 目前3.0很夠應付目前產品了
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2021-02-18T05:18
還有測試顯示卡效能,電腦平台也必需有代表性
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2021-02-22T23:01
所以要選intel平台 且至少10700以上
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-02-25T15:05
AMD平台,測試數據後面請加註用AMD平台測的
Intel就不用特別加註
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-02-28T15:45
還差很遠
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-03-02T21:46
所以3090 不用升主板了嗎? 9900k 再戰

22K左右 日常用機

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