Pixel 3a XL 印度價格破2萬(板上盜 - 手機討論

Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2019-05-07T11:28

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幾年沒進這個板,也發現這個板的風氣整個墮落,還有一堆中國用語

其實最根本的問題就是,這個板就是太多CP仔跟中國人混進來,帶起整個板的畸形風氣

就像我玩的一個線上遊戲大航海時代ol,一開始都是台灣人在玩,很正常,有外掛

就群起撻伐,但有一天中國伺服器倒了,一堆中國人大量入侵台服,沒多久台服就

是外掛滿地,中國玩家還會熱心的教新手用外掛,然後這個遊戲就毀了,現在還在

玩這個遊戲的,90%是中國外掛,9%是跟著一起用外掛的台灣玩家跟1%少數不用外掛

的,當然官方也擺爛了


還有在玩遊戲的都知道前陣子Steam板因為Epic盜個資的問題鬧得沸沸揚揚,

現在Epic在Steam板就是個笑柄,免費送遊戲也沒人要,這才像台灣討論區,


反觀手機板,講話最大聲的是拿傳有偷個資疑慮的山寨祖師爺小米跟解放軍品牌華為用家

一堆人整天在那邊講個資不重要,在講小米華為CP值多高

然後拉Apple跟Google也會偷個資來救援,嘲笑非中國品牌手機CP值多低又多盤,


先講個資問題

腦袋稍微正常的台灣人都知道,小米華為跟美商蘋果Google根本不具可比性

先不說美國沒在拿飛彈對準台灣,最基本的常識是美國是法治國家,真的出現

有公司企業盜個資會走後門上傳資料,早就鬧大上新聞或是被告了,

而小米華為呢?中國公司偷你個資你能拿它怎麼辦?就連中國商人剽竊美國大

公司的商標,美國都拿中國沒法度了,中國就是個無法無天的地方,

ex. https://ec.ltn.com.tw/article/breakingnews/2364603



好啦退一萬步來說,就算Apple跟Google也偷偷上傳你手機資料,大多數台灣人應

該都不會太過擔心吧,這就好像我們在台灣上網,很多網站需要註冊個人資料,

對於一些政府網站或有公信力的企業,大多放心的留下資料,

相反的對一些色情網站或盜版電影&軟體就不會有信任感,

這個比喻就是要說,一般人對政府平台跟色情網站就不可能會有相同的信任度

政府或有公信力的平台 → 可看作是Apple跟Google

色情網站或盜版軟體網站 → 小米華為

因為腦袋正常的台灣人就不會把色情網站跟政府網站相提並論,

所以最簡單的邏輯就是,台灣人對美國(商)跟中資(公司)不會有相同的信任感,


但在這個板呢?整天就看一堆人拿著華為小米手機談到個資問題就拿蘋果Google救援

從幾年前就在拉救援,幾年後還在拉Google救援個資問題,邏輯毫無進步

不知道是不是太多中國人跑來PTT的關係,一堆中國人ID,他們在中國被共產黨看

光光無能為力也無力反抗,就翻牆出來整天宣揚個資無用論,

當然也有可能是太多台灣人自己為了貪圖CP值只好催眠自己不是名人個資沒有用


再來講CP值問題,

現實生活中,誰會像PTT的CP仔一樣整天CP值掛嘴上然後嘲笑別人盤子?

小米因為不注重原創到處抄東抄西,從創辦人發表會擺的pose就在抄,網站風格也在抄

UI抄外型更在抄,從骨子裡抄到外表,研發成本相對低廉,加上用戶幫忙debug,

當然小米對原物料跟物件成本的掌控也有一套

而華為身為一個有解放軍背景的企業,傾國家之力挹注進行不公平的競爭,

全世界到處剽竊專利智財跟開後門盜資料的消息還時有所聞,

簡單說,就是兩個下流的企業,形象崩壞令人髮指,


結果就因為某些品牌在某些人眼裡相對物超所值,現在板上這些人講話最大聲,

(當然不是單指這兩個品牌用戶,而是板上風氣)

整天笑別人是盤子別的品牌型號又多爛?

PTT真不愧是反指標,

現實生活正常人買東西消費某樣物品,除了價格因素,還會加上品牌喜好跟信任度,

品味跟特色或看中某特殊功能之類的條件

結果在這個板這些都是多餘的,CP值高最重要,只能說是莫名其妙

更扯的是還有拿山寨貨嘲笑正版貨的討論文 #1SjL-W_T (MobileComm)

你要買CP值高的東西就去買啊,整天說別人買某品牌跟型號的手機就是盤子是怎麼回事?


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Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-05-11T05:10
好像聽到甚麼東西裂開了
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2019-05-14T22:52
政治腦混進來才是板風敗壞主因
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-05-18T16:34
TLDR
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-05-22T10:16
你會被支那賤畜們噓 先幫補血
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2019-05-26T03:59
先補血
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-05-29T21:41
還有人想要政治歸政治哦 LUL
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2019-06-02T15:23
這板轉貼超多26文章
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2019-06-06T09:05
先補血,不然等等又有人要噓了
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2019-06-10T02:48
花粉不開心
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-06-13T20:30
國人要生氣了
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2019-06-17T14:12
版上很多對岸的行銷人員阿 發布資料和心得都超快PO
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-06-21T07:54
政治掰掰,還我清淨手機版,手機跟政治有關係嗎?
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2019-06-25T01:36
推!非常認同!
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2019-06-28T19:19
著名五毛realtw=hwp8在這都被抓到了
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-07-02T13:01
推 很多人會氣哺哺
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2019-07-06T06:43
幫補血
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2019-07-10T00:25
反駁幾句 還會被說政治文被水桶 連版主都這樣了
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2019-07-13T18:07
大家一起政治龜政治啦,政治好髒我不要
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2019-07-17T11:50
就是你這種政治腦才搞爛這個版的吧
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2019-07-21T05:32
轉一堆中國文章看一堆屏來屏去的就直接跳出。螢幕啦,x
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2019-07-24T23:14
CP仔很兇,怕怕
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-07-28T16:56
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2019-08-01T10:39
老生常談,你會被桶之類的然後他們繼續捧
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2019-08-05T04:21
主要還是TC不爭氣啦 前幾前TC風光的時候 版上中國仔可沒有這麼囂張 呵呵呵
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-08-08T22:03
幫補血
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2019-08-12T15:45
這板是支那文最多的地方嗎?
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2019-08-16T09:27
背骨仔用慣CP值手機,什麼個資什麼創新都不在意啦
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2019-08-20T03:10
tc還行時候還不是被酸內建92共識 不討論手機本身 討論意識型態最棒了
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-08-23T20:52
這裡推華為跟小米的人真的很多 完全沒有參考價值
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2019-08-27T14:34
PTT現在就資訊戰主戰場之一啊
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2019-08-31T08:16
推 看不懂中國用字還會被罵
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2019-09-04T01:58
其實中國有一套 用錢自己買自己貨品衝市占的手法
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-09-07T19:41
淘寶雙11就是這樣衝業績 我是不知道手機有沒有啦不過我身邊朋友 沒有一個人是用華為
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-09-11T13:23
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2019-09-15T07:05
先補血
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2019-09-19T00:47
先補血
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2019-09-22T18:30
好啦但其實回傳資料這件事目前只能說有疑慮,不是沒有一個國家「證實」嗎?
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-09-26T12:12
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2019-09-30T05:54
幫補
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2019-10-03T23:36
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2019-10-07T17:18
先補 等等可能有五毛大軍會進攻
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2019-10-11T11:01
補血
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2019-10-15T04:43
推推推,但是這裡不能說真話超出CP仔最愛戰的規格,就是觸犯版規喔
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-10-18T22:25
補血
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2019-10-22T16:07
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2019-10-26T09:50
推,一堆中國用語就可略知一二
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2019-10-30T03:32
推,還好我用正版嘻嘻
David avatar
By David
at 2019-11-02T21:14
政治先不論,cp值現在也有問題了lol?
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2019-11-06T14:56
那你叫子龍機怎麼辦他應該算是最愛國的選項了,他也是主打cp啊
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2019-11-10T08:38
中文本身乾脆禁掉,你廢掉你的姓如何
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2019-11-14T02:21
一堆支那新聞都不翻譯的zzz
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2019-11-17T20:03
還是那句老話,你要說別人只是堆硬體,就該拿出你軟體真的贏別人的地方。譬如你說小米ui只會抄蘋果,這個就可以接受。但是如果什麼都不說,只是單純喜歡硬體給高就叫cp仔,那大家都買蘋果就好@@
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2019-11-21T13:45
幫補血!!
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2019-11-25T07:27
台灣慣老闆太猖獗 奴工窮得買不起小米以外的
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-11-29T01:09
tc還行的時候不是有某政客拿出來砸,然後一堆綠腦一起反tc,寧願相信政客嘴砲愛台,不看tc幫台賺錢
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2019-12-02T18:52
推!非常認同!
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-12-06T12:34
幫補血,雖然我用小米QQ
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-12-10T06:16
阿忘了可能很多人不知道,子龍機就是asus XDDD
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-12-13T23:58
轉簡體文章沒關係 用語應該要改台灣慣用名詞再發文才對
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2019-12-17T17:41
推啊
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-12-21T11:23
這麼挺美國企業?
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2019-12-25T05:05
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-12-28T22:47
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-01-01T16:29
上次本板黑華為回傳資料的文才被打臉過 慘每次都在退一萬步XDD
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-01-05T10:12
幫補血
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2020-01-09T03:54
推個
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-01-12T21:36
先幫你補血
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2020-01-16T15:18
PTT 的都看看就好 現實跟別人討論CP值會被白眼吧
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-01-20T09:01
會被五毛蠢貨噓
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2020-01-24T02:43
依法得向企業索取資料的 有啥好說的
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-01-27T20:25
CP廚只看處理器和相機規格,其他都是屎
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2020-01-31T14:07
同意
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-02-04T07:49
我真的對這版的國家來源分佈超有興趣,到底多少外國人
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-02-08T01:32
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2020-02-11T19:14
我個資寧可給Pornhub也不要給Google
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2020-02-15T12:56
幫補血 手機好不好 CP仔哪會知道
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-02-19T06:38
觀念正確 但五毛會噓
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-02-23T00:20
說五X 會被水桶喔^^
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-02-26T18:03
認真請教,如果買小米入手後就刷成相對乾淨的歐版,還會有回傳資料的「疑慮」嗎?
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2020-03-01T11:45
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2020-03-05T05:27
直接AOSP+MicroG 連Google都收不到你的資料
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-03-08T23:09
他們會無限上網跟你說後門做在晶片裡
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-03-12T16:52
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2020-03-16T10:34
午卯會來噓症痔龜症痔,反正只有午卯能噓他牌,不能他牌噓午卯牌,要不然會被說成乳驊
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-03-20T04:16
花粉崩溃
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2020-03-23T21:58
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-03-27T15:40
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-03-31T09:23
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-04-04T03:05
反指標的是你,華為小米早就不把HTC放在眼裡了,偷個資的新聞前陣子才被打臉
William avatar
By William
at 2020-04-07T20:47
只講求cp實在很好笑
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-04-11T14:29
說得很棒
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-04-15T08:11
補血
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2020-04-19T01:54
講中文禁掉的邏輯死當嗎
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-04-22T19:36
幫補血,還有一個抄很大力,摳米兇給很大方的
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2020-04-26T13:18
David avatar
By David
at 2020-04-30T07:00
我以為來到八卦或政黑版
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-05-04T00:43
午卯用殘體字,台灣用正體字,某樓午卯邏輯的確死了
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-05-07T18:25
長官...軍中不說實話..
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-05-11T12:07
沒想到PTT也是
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2020-05-15T05:49
推 說的沒錯啊
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2020-05-18T23:31
這台pixel本來是就很盤的拉基 還敢護航啊
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-05-22T17:14
他人笑買p3是盤子,我笑他是窮人買不起,都來互相傷害很好玩?
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-05-26T10:56
推 可是華為跟小米市佔率不管台灣還是世界都在提高QQ
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-05-30T04:38
推這篇 但是肯定有一堆cp仔來噓
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2020-06-02T22:20
某o,這篇從頭到尾哪裡幫盤子Pixel護航了
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-06-06T16:03
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2020-06-10T09:45
推 好文
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-06-14T03:27
對岸品牌完全不考慮 想獻出資料的就任他們去吧 大家自由選擇
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-06-17T21:09
是啊,板上風氣就是爛阿
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-06-21T14:51
牆內牌想吃牆外市場只好壓榨牆內買牆外廣告洗腦
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-06-25T08:34
邏輯推
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-06-29T02:16
手機板真的一堆中國用語 優化 屏跟他們提醒台灣用語還會被噓
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2020-07-02T19:58
William avatar
By William
at 2020-07-06T13:40
補血
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-07-10T07:22
還是耳機板清淨,不過管三小政治的,棒,垃圾手機板
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-07-14T01:05
你會被五毛賤畜華為小米oppo粉噓
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-07-17T18:47
其實核心就是韓國手機打敗日本的中國版本,歷史就是消費者會去追求物美價廉
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-07-21T12:29
韓國三星從i9000開始堆硬體高cp,重軟體的htc就被酸sense值五千了
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2020-07-25T06:11
難到不是因為耳機沒有連網能力,所以才不能被連接回傳資料嗎? 等耳機會上網後,陰謀論應該要不會少
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-07-28T23:54
推啊
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-08-01T17:36
除了專利官司,一般消費者顯然不在意設計是不是抄襲
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-08-05T11:18
除非你也是原住民,否則也是外來人。
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2020-08-09T05:00
幫補血
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2020-08-12T22:42
以前中國手機便宜也沒人買,現在是走當年韓國的路且價格更敢殺才起來
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2020-08-16T16:25
正體中文、河洛語你都不該在這片土地使用
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2020-08-20T10:07
推個!
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-08-24T03:49
高中生版主崩潰了
James avatar
By James
at 2020-08-27T21:31
幹,當初一片熱忱到現在跟垃圾差不多,媽的maplefff你也是亂源之一
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-08-31T15:14
他笑你盤子,你笑他山寨,網路世界認真就輸了
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-09-04T08:56
就算你酸三星i9000或是s2根本抄襲iphone,但從那時開始htc跟sony就開始從高點往下掉了
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2020-09-08T02:38
先推幫補血
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2020-09-11T20:20
推實話
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-09-15T14:02
真的 整天在那邊酸TC內建92共識 然後去買中國機
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-09-19T07:45
TC自己出包比較大 這篇先補血
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2020-09-23T01:27
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2020-09-26T19:09
maple根本假果粉真卓粉吧,之前檢舉他引戰,還有人寄站內跟我說他是求好心切建議我撤檢舉咧
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-09-30T12:51
都快亡國了,先亡一個手機板我覺得沒甚麼毛病
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2020-10-04T06:33
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-10-08T00:16
推你
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-10-11T17:58
trade off 的觀念很多人選擇視而不見
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2020-10-15T11:40
本來就是這樣
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2020-10-19T05:22
我猜寄信要求撤檢舉的是帥葛還有檢舉板不能自刪,否則退文
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-10-22T23:05
說的真好!
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-10-26T16:47
說的好,幫補,不要被中國人同化
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2020-10-30T10:29
補血
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-11-03T04:11
推這篇
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-11-06T21:53
先射箭再畫靶 你的文也太偏頗==
George avatar
By George
at 2020-11-10T15:36
話說版皇大概會水桶你,嘔嘔嘔嘔版皇嘔嘔嘔嘔
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-11-14T09:18
推,太中肯
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-11-18T03:00
推 手機版應該要導正風氣一下
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2020-11-21T20:42
華為沒有CP值吧 那麼貴
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2020-11-25T14:24
補起來
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-11-29T08:07
警告!警告!警告!請穿拖鞋!嚴禁赤腳!
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-12-03T01:49
還有人覺得華為被黑很可憐,真是悲哀
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-12-06T19:31
真的,我都不懂華為那麼多新聞,這裡是平行時空嗎?都推華為,我還以為我眼花了
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2020-12-10T13:13
推 ptt5毛實在有夠多 跟10年前完全不一樣
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-12-14T06:56
推你 原來還有跟我一樣想法的正常人
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2020-12-18T00:38
10年真的是差太遠了..10年前的西恰還能每篇文都看..
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2020-12-21T18:20
補血
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-12-25T12:02
我個人是覺得拿了小米之後打字小心點,而且最好不要去中國了
James avatar
By James
at 2020-12-29T05:44
手機版超噁,一堆支那工讀生
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-01-01T23:27
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-01-05T17:09
拿小米打 習大大 大傻b 去中國旅遊應該會被關到小房間
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2021-01-09T10:51
現實真的很少有人注重cp值!
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2021-01-13T04:33
崩潰喔
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-01-16T22:16
這位老鐵真牛B
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-01-20T15:58
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-01-24T09:40
我絕不用對岸機,但htc自己不爭氣,我只剩下索尼可用
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2021-01-28T03:22
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2021-01-31T21:04
美國企業不就好棒棒
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2021-02-04T14:47
如果子龍離開市場 我會選日韓機
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-02-08T08:29
管理風格決定板風阿 每個看板都是這樣
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2021-02-12T02:11
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2021-02-15T19:53
補血 中國就敵國 有什麼好買
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2021-02-19T13:35
補血,邏輯思維正確
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2021-02-23T07:18
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2021-02-27T01:00
說禁中文的很好笑,我們用正體中文共匪用殘體中文兩邊不一樣禁什麼?
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2021-03-02T18:42
禁正體中文的捧殘體中文這邏輯我也不懂
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2021-03-06T12:24
推,支那牌就留給支那賤畜
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2021-03-10T06:07
補推
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2021-03-13T23:49
花大錢用華為真的母湯啦
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2021-03-17T17:31
貪生、怕死、短視近利
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2021-03-21T11:13
整天喊cp值卻捨棄一切價值的才好笑
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-03-25T04:55
支那人叫別人禁中文,那自己要不要禁英文一堆支那見處崩潰
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2021-03-28T22:38
大推 我已經穿好藍白拖了
David avatar
By David
at 2021-04-01T16:20
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2021-04-05T10:02
啥屏幕、內存、屏佔比==去手機行敢這樣講?
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2021-04-09T03:44
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2021-04-12T21:27
推 五毛快滾
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2021-04-16T15:09
你講的部分是事實啦
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2021-04-20T08:51
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2021-04-24T02:33
推 你是對的
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-04-27T20:15
幫補血
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2021-05-01T13:58
爽啦
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-05-05T07:40
跑分÷價格=cp值 之前看到差點笑死xDD
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2021-05-09T01:22
幫你補血 個資不重要的都低端人口啦
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2021-05-12T19:04
是的,我無能,所以這看板爛了,希望有明眼人來接我這個位置
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-05-16T12:46
支那五毛跳板仔就是要把批踢踢搞爛 這樣臉書粉絲團LINE群組Yahoo奇摩巴哈姆特Mobile01全部都是牠們的主場
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-05-20T06:29
讚誒
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2021-05-24T00:11
你說得很對QQ
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2021-05-27T17:53
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-05-31T11:35
幫補血,不過只看CP值的酸酸完全看不下去的
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2021-06-04T05:18
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2021-06-07T23:00
pixel內存太小,屏幕的屏佔比跟售價都不行怎麼比的過咱們華為呢
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2021-06-11T16:42
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2021-06-15T10:24
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2021-06-19T04:06
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-06-22T21:49
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-06-26T15:31
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-06-30T09:13
非常認同!
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2021-07-04T02:55
跟省錢版一樣啊哈哈,一堆乞丐大劍!!!
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-07-07T20:37
支粉會噓 幫你補血
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2021-07-11T14:20
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2021-07-15T08:02
幫忙補血,完全認同
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-07-19T01:44
幫補血
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2021-07-22T19:26
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2021-07-26T13:09
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2021-07-30T06:51
噓文26仔
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-08-03T00:33
4
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2021-08-06T18:15
推!
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-08-10T11:57
五毛替中國統戰至少還有錢領。有些台灣人一邊外流新台幣和個資給中國,還一邊替解放軍手機護航、幫五毛打壓那些不想用中國用語的自己人,這種人真的很……
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2021-08-14T05:40
補血
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-08-17T23:22
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-08-21T17:04
推一個 說得好
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2021-08-25T10:46
補血
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2021-08-29T04:29
幫補血 看不懂中國用語還要被酸
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2021-09-01T22:11
大推
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-09-05T15:53
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2021-09-09T09:35
補血
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2021-09-13T03:17
還在拿飛彈對著台灣哦,你以為在玩紅色警戒2?
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2021-09-16T21:00
挑手機一律先去掉中國品牌 接著再來談CP值
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2021-09-20T14:42
看到這種自我感覺良好文徐就對了*噓
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2021-09-24T08:24
這篇 我他媽的一定要推 敢
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-09-28T02:06
而這且要記下那些id
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2021-10-01T19:48
中國東南沿海的東門飛彈,最短可以打到菲律賓長一點可以打澳洲,他們怎不提被飛彈針對好怕?好歹也拿共機繞台來講30年前的話術都不更新,還可以繼續唬人,有夠好騙
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2021-10-05T13:31
拍補
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2021-10-09T07:13
優文
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2021-10-13T00:55
感謝某樓示範XD
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-10-16T18:37
中國垃圾手機就該消失
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-10-20T12:20
好多碎玻璃
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2021-10-24T06:02
自以為沒事 無憂患意識過太爽 無視想逃出牆國的富26
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2021-10-27T23:44
推推~~
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2021-10-31T17:26
推,腦袋清醒
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2021-11-04T11:08
先補血~
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2021-11-08T04:51
推一個
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2021-11-11T22:33
正常啊 尤其TC的黑文最誇張
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2021-11-15T16:15
認同
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2021-11-19T09:57
每天在酸小米華為個資回傳結果先被爆出來的是這版很愛的Nokia 笑die
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-11-23T03:40
你這篇留好 你拿不出小米華為有竊取你個資到話你可能要賠不少
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2021-11-26T21:22
有多少證據說多少話是法治國家最基本的
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2021-11-30T15:04
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-12-04T08:46
有時候以為自己賺到了,其實是賠了更多。
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2021-12-08T02:28
推,駐版中國人越來越多
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-12-11T20:11
能不買中國品牌就儘量不要買吧!
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-12-15T05:18
中國沒拿飛彈對著臺灣???哇靠
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-12-11T11:36
沒有 沒有哦 飛彈不是對準台灣,只是對準台獨份子哦
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血,信任度真的差很多,個資到google還是中資手上完全是兩件事。
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2021-12-11T11:36
^_^
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-12-15T05:18
猜猜流亡海外的西藏人會寧願個資傳給美國還是中資企業?
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推推,謝謝原po救救本版QQ
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2021-12-15T05:18
這裡變八卦版?
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-12-11T11:36
幫補血 國人要殺進來了
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-12-15T05:18
你不先革命推翻中華民國嗎?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-12-11T11:36
讚啦
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2021-12-15T05:18
不買中國手機為什麼要先革命推翻中華民國?不買就好了啊!
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2021-12-15T05:18
你先確定中華民國是那國再來討論不會把自己家Made in China都拿掉嗎?
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2021-12-11T11:36
這邊的素質就這樣啊 幫你補血
George avatar
By George
at 2021-12-15T05:18
看到嘲笑ASUS拼命捧糞米垃圾為就知道板上都什麼人了
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2021-12-11T11:36
先叫人革命推翻中華民國,又叫人先確定中華民國是哪國,大家只是不買中華人民共和國的手機而已,幹嘛一直中華民國中華民國?
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推你,一堆崩潰跳針五毛
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2021-12-15T05:18
說到回傳,“史諾登“事件不就更有證據真87
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2021-12-11T11:36
自己辭職下台好嗎?還要等到別人拉你下台喔
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推 一堆用華為跟小米的可撥仔
David avatar
By David
at 2021-12-11T11:36
幫補血 說禁中文的要不要去跟馬來西亞新加坡人講啊
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2021-12-15T05:18
太神啦
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2021-12-11T11:36
在這版看文都要查ID國籍還有相關ID還看發文紀錄 慘
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-12-15T05:18
花粉會噓你
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-12-11T11:36
中國噁噁噁噁
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血,時代清流,感謝有你的支持,我才能繼續使用小米+Gcam
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-12-11T11:36
盜個資這事就是溫水煮青蛙
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2021-12-15T05:18
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2021-12-11T11:36
氣噗噗寫這么多 舔美也沒多清高 買華碩再來說嘴
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-12-15T05:18
大陸品牌94讚,一堆人想舔
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2021-12-11T11:36
這篇真的釣出一堆逢中就跪舔的cp仔餒XD我不是針對誰,我是說買中國品牌手機的都是______
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
盜版就是討厭 更不用說中國竊取個資 推一個谷歌
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2021-12-11T11:36
講的好像Apple跟Google都沒抄小米一樣 XD
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2021-12-15T05:18
幫補
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-12-11T11:36
小米華為蘋果谷歌三星現在都抄來抄去了
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血 邏輯清楚
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2021-12-11T11:36
樓下中國仔崩潰
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-12-15T05:18
https://youtu.be/1GxGA78RgAA
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2021-12-11T11:36
中國人棒棒噠
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2021-12-15T05:18
好爽==
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-12-11T11:36
優文推推
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-12-15T05:18
中肯推
James avatar
By James
at 2021-12-11T11:36
CP仔跟駐版5毛好兇,似乎很怕支那廠商賺不到錢
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2021-12-15T05:18
CP值的極致就是 cheap and poor, 真正好的東西或者是有用心去做的東西都很難符合CP值這種條件,看看 wiha 的螺絲起子他媽的就是一隻螺絲起子,就是要賣你幾百塊,但是那個手感用過一次真的會懷念。
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2021-12-11T11:36
感謝原PO,封鎖了幾個不知道在說啥的ID= =
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2021-12-15T05:18
樓上讓我想到 米家wiha 真的好用阿 XD
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-12-11T11:36
幫補!
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-12-15T05:18
等等他們又跳針症治歸症治
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2021-12-11T11:36
幫補血
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推優文
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推優文,CP值的P可以有很多意涵,不是只有硬體規格
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2021-12-15T05:18
回樓上米家 wiha 並不是 wiha 生產的
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2021-12-11T11:36
應該說算是小米跟 wiha 合作生產的 並不是德國製的
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
下流企業無誤,PTT被支那人入侵也無誤
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2021-12-11T11:36
https://reurl.cc/jaYR2這篇文章有講到到底是不是wiha自己生產的,簡體文章不喜勿點
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2021-12-15T05:18
優質好文 整天那邊華為小米 台灣低能真的太多了
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推XD
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2021-12-15T05:18
非推不可觀念正確
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2021-12-11T11:36
覺得以前是一對三星寫手,現在一堆小米華為寫手,還帶有惡意的
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Dora
at 2021-12-11T11:36
觀念正確 連結盜板貨還一堆推...
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By Queena
at 2021-12-15T05:18
拜託救救手機版
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By Rae
at 2021-12-11T11:36
小米華為下去 拉基支那糞貨 個資被偷都不知道
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By Aaliyah
at 2021-12-15T05:18
說得好
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By Vanessa
at 2021-12-11T11:36
唉 早就說過了 這個板本來就是華為板 只會越來越少人用而已
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By Necoo
at 2021-12-15T05:18
嘻嘻
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By Blanche
at 2021-12-11T11:36
補血
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By Victoria
at 2021-12-15T05:18
花粉森77
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-12-11T11:36
有些人不懂個資的重要性 以為自己不是什麼咖就沒差這是錯的
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2021-12-15T05:18
這篇正確
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By Noah
at 2021-12-11T11:36
呵呵
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-12-15T05:18
說的太好了!
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-12-11T11:36
同意,所以這板我都路過而已
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Zora
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推,有時候不是只考慮cp值而已
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By Carolina Franco
at 2021-12-15T05:18
不是wiha生產,用起來爽度不輸wihawiha授權,得2017紅點,一組不到台幣500
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By Heather
at 2021-12-11T11:36
這CP值有問題嗎?
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By Xanthe
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Oliver
at 2021-12-11T11:36
幫補血
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By Joe
at 2021-12-15T05:18
我投蔡英文,但我買小米不行嗎?會被洗腦的人,用什麼都會被統戰
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By Regina
at 2021-12-11T11:36
英粉幫推,2020不投小英就等著被26大舉入侵了
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By Hardy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Gilbert
at 2021-12-11T11:36
有讚有推
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2021-12-15T05:18
幫補血 一堆五毛崩潰噓
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By Brianna
at 2021-12-11T11:36
補血 CP還好我選Nokia
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By Iris
at 2021-12-15T05:18
幫補血 最近五毛很多會來噓
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By Enid
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推 某物種太多真的對台灣不是好事…
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By Doris
at 2021-12-15T05:18
不能同意更多 謝謝你幫我講出心聲
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By Michael
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推 毫無法治的國家不可信任 還進實驗室偷東西
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2021-12-15T05:18
整天討論cp值有夠煩的 特別是洗某些特定品牌
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By Noah
at 2021-12-11T11:36
你講政治會被版主桶
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By Suhail Hany
at 2021-12-15T05:18
然後詆毀其他品牌的支持者 看了就杜爛
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By Jake
at 2021-12-11T11:36
大推~沒錯 就是看不起政府背景的華為與山寨起家的
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By Rachel
at 2021-12-15T05:18
小米, 你愛從規格看CP值是你家的事 其他人在意的是
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-12-11T11:36
品牌形象. 再者,MIC與中國品牌是兩碼子事, 混在一起討論幹嘛
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By Hardy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
阿陸機真香
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By Xanthe
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Hamiltion
at 2021-12-15T05:18
謝謝你!敬禮!(  ̄□ ̄)/ <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ )
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By Eartha
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推你!你好勇敢,我都不敢直接在PTT講了!
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By Agatha
at 2021-12-15T05:18
堆 那些人的嘴臉真的好想噓
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By Irma
at 2021-12-11T11:36
棒棒
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By Edwina
at 2021-12-15T05:18
1450連這版也不放過?
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By Carolina Franco
at 2021-12-11T11:36
就是有二樓這種人 才會有假自由之名 行 迫害自由之實
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By Audriana
at 2021-12-15T05:18
jackietom 1450梗都爆掉了,你還在腿?
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2021-12-11T11:36
你想看1450 ? 去看汐止版。 跑出一堆國民黨的新聞。
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By Gilbert
at 2021-12-15T05:18
花粉老愛明支故問 https://i.imgur.com/hfbdKCT.png
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By Donna
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Emily
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推,一堆人整天炒CP值,看了都煩
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-12-15T05:18
兩個都會上傳個資沒錯 但是問題是背後的政府美國立法限制政府存取個資 而中國政府立法要求伺服器提供個資 統一管理這就是差別
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By Doris
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Sandy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
說到心坎了,補血推
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By John
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Liam
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推一堆五毛CP仔看了就煩,打死不用匪企手機啦
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Lauren
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Thomas
at 2021-12-11T11:36
真的 我幫我媽挑手機寧可我幫他貼錢換apple也不要她去聽什麼詭異群組裡狂推的超高cp值華為
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血
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By Mia
at 2021-12-11T11:36
勇於說實話,幫推
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By Hazel
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Kyle
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推 一堆五毛在噓....
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By Genevieve
at 2021-12-15T05:18
過幾年再來看嘛,現在不急。小日本也用了,你台灣人
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2021-12-11T11:36
不用?我沒見過台灣人這麼不孝順的,呵呵
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-12-15T05:18
另外,這個B是帶節奏的水軍吧,好幾年了,一點沒變
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By Elvira
at 2021-12-11T11:36
看到水軍 就可以不用看發言了吧 中國仔
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2021-12-15T05:18
上面透漏其背景...
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By Yedda
at 2021-12-11T11:36
拿錢給個垃圾國家叫做孝順這是想笑死誰ww
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By Christine
at 2021-12-15T05:18
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2021-12-11T11:36
感謝幫過濾
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By Regina
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血
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By Jake
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Belly
at 2021-12-15T05:18
Tlder
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By Linda
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Ina
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Frederic
at 2021-12-11T11:36
世風日下
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By Bennie
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Agnes
at 2021-12-11T11:36
理性、觀念正確,給推
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By Elma
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Daph Bay
at 2021-12-11T11:36
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2021-12-15T05:18
推! 一直拉別人來救援就是5毛最會的事,一堆人傻傻被騙
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-12-11T11:36
推 五毛太多敗壞風氣
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By Valerie
at 2021-12-15T05:18
補血
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By Erin
at 2021-12-11T11:36
一堆死五毛。快滾回你家牆裡
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By Yuri
at 2021-12-15T05:18
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By Jacky
at 2021-12-11T11:36
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By Eden
at 2021-12-15T05:18
完全不會考慮中國手機

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By Caitlin
at 2019-05-07T11:08
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By Isla
at 2019-05-07T11:08
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20K以下Android手機

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By Eden
at 2019-05-07T09:55
[1m(一) 預算區間/已選擇之機種 (若為請版友選擇你考慮的機種,請填機種在這) 20K以下 目前考慮Sony XZ3 (二) 使用需求 (例如:螢幕尺寸、拍照、高續航、高效能...等等) 效能不低於U11 然後要有無線充電 (三) 系統/品牌喜好 (例如:要XX品牌...不要XX品牌) Android ...

Sony預估智慧手機銷量將大減23%至500萬支

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By Kelly
at 2019-05-07T09:39
※ 引述《olmtw (支持htc,支持台灣貨)》之銘言: : 不知在與影像、家庭娛樂部門合併後情況是否會有好轉。 : 接下來看看今年的最旗艦Xperia 1有沒有逆轉勝的潛能 這個Phonearnea在上個月底倒是有報導起來 https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-sma ...

Asus Zenfone MaxPro M1電量急速下降

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By Quanna
at 2019-05-07T09:34
前幾天還用的好好的 平常我用充滿可以用3天 在日本這隻機子主打的大電量續航 讓我在用上網吃到飽sim卡也是一天回旅館充一次電就好 可是這兩天回台灣電池噴超快,看了電量使用應該是uber,佔了50% 昨天把他的定位權限關了,黑域也去抓來試試看 今天早上起來昨晚還有50%的電量又噴光了,沒電可以開機 平常5 ...