R7 1700簡單開箱+坎坷歷程(圖少傷眼) - 3C
By Jacky
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雖然原本使用的平台是i7-6700K,但由於換換病發作時,87個肌肉汁男來也壓制不住
,沒想到換了之後卻是長期的Debug戰爭,故事雖沒可歌可泣撼動人心,卻是我換Ryzen以
來的真實狀況,以下是最近在我手上玩過的Ryzen平台,零件排序為由先到後的購入順序。
原平台:
CPU:i7-6700K
MB :Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5
新平台:
CPU:R7 1700X
R7 1700
MB :Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
Asus PRIME X370-Pro
Biostar B350GT3
Gigabyte AB350M-Gaming3
主機板附個圖,省得有人說標題詐欺: http://imgur.com/a/d1NDB
RAM:金士頓 HyperX Fury DDR4-2400 16G*2
Micron Crucial DDR4 2400/8G*2
SSD:ADATA SX8000 256GB
在最開始的時候,是先購入1700X跟B350-PLUS,插上小金的兩條記憶體,沒有翻車,
正常開機,不過原系統會有莫名間斷的頓挫,重灌win10之後解決,然後CPU體質非常烙賽
,在這張板子要上3.8G,居然要加壓到1.5v才能跑完cinebench,真的有點扯,後來反覆
測試,抓到在[email protected]是較佳的日常使用甜蜜點,也可以通過燒機轉檔的測試而不當
機,以下換板也都在正常開機後調整至這數值。
但在使用時隨即發現我平常所使用的影像擷取卡(BMD Intensity Pro 4K)無法跑到
60fps,只有42~48左右(於1080p@60fps時,720p@60fps則正常)。
由於擷取卡規格是pcie x4(2.0),在上一個平台使用時是插在CPU拉出來的另一個x8
,因此當下懷疑是南橋拉出來的pcie頻寬不足,於是將該板退貨重新購入X370-Pro,同時
也從其他管道弄了一張Biostar B350GT3當玩具。X370規格支援將CPU的pcie x16拆分成
x8+x8,在使用擷取卡時,原本只有4x的FPS恢復到正常的60,因此當下更確認了是南橋的
問題。
由於我PC跟路由器+NAS主機是不同房間,中間也不好拉明線,因此是透過無線網路(
使用的網卡是PCE-AC66)連線,某次要存取家中的NAS時,發現速度異常緩慢,以前平台
可以跑60MB/s左右的,怎麼只剩下2~3MB/s?雖然知道祥碩南橋略為烙賽,但怎樣也不可
能有這麼誇張的速度。
在清除BIOS CMOS/安裝不同版本晶片組驅動/使用不同版本BIOS,以上各種行為均有
機率恢復速度到40~50MB/s(雖然如此,還是比原平台的60MB/s慢),但可能重開機幾次
又變回2~3MB/s的速度,拿生化星的B350交叉測試也有同樣問題,這下子問題真的越來越
詭異了。
由於板子交叉測試都會出現這問題,途中還碰到擷取卡也降速成4xFPS的狀況,WTF?
不是南橋的問題嗎?怎麼CPU拉出來的插槽也降速了。在找不到原因下,我甚至開始懷疑
兩張擴充卡(擷取卡+網路卡)是不是同時壞掉,但想想兩張卡要同時壞,真的不太可能。
上禮拜一個親友想升級Ryzen,需求是Matx+並列埠,因此幫他購入了1700+G心AB350M
-Gaming3,在零件到手後,拿這張板子來作交叉測試,也有上述問題,於是我開始懷疑起
CPU。
在bios預設值跟[email protected]情況下,都可以順利通過各種燒機跟日常使用,基本上
是不會懷疑到CPU的,但Ryzen的Soc化比起intel更高,加上之前有FMA3單元的供電問題,
讓我開始懷疑是不是CPU往南橋模組的供電出了問題,導致訊號清晰度不佳,於是在bios
預設頻率下,對cpu各種模組都稍微加一點電壓,結果速度全部都恢復了,雖然後來測試
還是會偶爾出現同樣狀況,但出現頻率少非常多,然後換了1700在上述各板子上作測試,
全部沒有上述情況。
現在把1700跟G心板組給親友了,我自己先暫時用筆電,把CPU拿去RMA,喵的,格羅
方德果然是你烙賽漏尿的好碰友。
根據以上故事,我得出的結論是:
1.幫朋友組時,除非他指定,不然現階段不推薦Ryzen平台,除非他要自己Debug,
或著你的興趣就是Debug。
2.除了顯示卡外,如果你還有其他的各種卡要使用,不推薦Ryzen平台。
3.去你的格羅方德。
--
,沒想到換了之後卻是長期的Debug戰爭,故事雖沒可歌可泣撼動人心,卻是我換Ryzen以
來的真實狀況,以下是最近在我手上玩過的Ryzen平台,零件排序為由先到後的購入順序。
原平台:
CPU:i7-6700K
MB :Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5
新平台:
CPU:R7 1700X
R7 1700
MB :Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
Asus PRIME X370-Pro
Biostar B350GT3
Gigabyte AB350M-Gaming3
主機板附個圖,省得有人說標題詐欺: http://imgur.com/a/d1NDB
RAM:金士頓 HyperX Fury DDR4-2400 16G*2
Micron Crucial DDR4 2400/8G*2
SSD:ADATA SX8000 256GB
在最開始的時候,是先購入1700X跟B350-PLUS,插上小金的兩條記憶體,沒有翻車,
正常開機,不過原系統會有莫名間斷的頓挫,重灌win10之後解決,然後CPU體質非常烙賽
,在這張板子要上3.8G,居然要加壓到1.5v才能跑完cinebench,真的有點扯,後來反覆
測試,抓到在[email protected]是較佳的日常使用甜蜜點,也可以通過燒機轉檔的測試而不當
機,以下換板也都在正常開機後調整至這數值。
但在使用時隨即發現我平常所使用的影像擷取卡(BMD Intensity Pro 4K)無法跑到
60fps,只有42~48左右(於1080p@60fps時,720p@60fps則正常)。
由於擷取卡規格是pcie x4(2.0),在上一個平台使用時是插在CPU拉出來的另一個x8
,因此當下懷疑是南橋拉出來的pcie頻寬不足,於是將該板退貨重新購入X370-Pro,同時
也從其他管道弄了一張Biostar B350GT3當玩具。X370規格支援將CPU的pcie x16拆分成
x8+x8,在使用擷取卡時,原本只有4x的FPS恢復到正常的60,因此當下更確認了是南橋的
問題。
由於我PC跟路由器+NAS主機是不同房間,中間也不好拉明線,因此是透過無線網路(
使用的網卡是PCE-AC66)連線,某次要存取家中的NAS時,發現速度異常緩慢,以前平台
可以跑60MB/s左右的,怎麼只剩下2~3MB/s?雖然知道祥碩南橋略為烙賽,但怎樣也不可
能有這麼誇張的速度。
在清除BIOS CMOS/安裝不同版本晶片組驅動/使用不同版本BIOS,以上各種行為均有
機率恢復速度到40~50MB/s(雖然如此,還是比原平台的60MB/s慢),但可能重開機幾次
又變回2~3MB/s的速度,拿生化星的B350交叉測試也有同樣問題,這下子問題真的越來越
詭異了。
由於板子交叉測試都會出現這問題,途中還碰到擷取卡也降速成4xFPS的狀況,WTF?
不是南橋的問題嗎?怎麼CPU拉出來的插槽也降速了。在找不到原因下,我甚至開始懷疑
兩張擴充卡(擷取卡+網路卡)是不是同時壞掉,但想想兩張卡要同時壞,真的不太可能。
上禮拜一個親友想升級Ryzen,需求是Matx+並列埠,因此幫他購入了1700+G心AB350M
-Gaming3,在零件到手後,拿這張板子來作交叉測試,也有上述問題,於是我開始懷疑起
CPU。
在bios預設值跟[email protected]情況下,都可以順利通過各種燒機跟日常使用,基本上
是不會懷疑到CPU的,但Ryzen的Soc化比起intel更高,加上之前有FMA3單元的供電問題,
讓我開始懷疑是不是CPU往南橋模組的供電出了問題,導致訊號清晰度不佳,於是在bios
預設頻率下,對cpu各種模組都稍微加一點電壓,結果速度全部都恢復了,雖然後來測試
還是會偶爾出現同樣狀況,但出現頻率少非常多,然後換了1700在上述各板子上作測試,
全部沒有上述情況。
現在把1700跟G心板組給親友了,我自己先暫時用筆電,把CPU拿去RMA,喵的,格羅
方德果然是你烙賽漏尿的好碰友。
根據以上故事,我得出的結論是:
1.幫朋友組時,除非他指定,不然現階段不推薦Ryzen平台,除非他要自己Debug,
或著你的興趣就是Debug。
2.除了顯示卡外,如果你還有其他的各種卡要使用,不推薦Ryzen平台。
3.去你的格羅方德。
--
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