ryzen在win7上跑更快(轉自reddit) - 3C

Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2017-03-05T11:41

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I did some 3D testing and eventhou there is not nearly enough data to confirm it, I'd say the SMT regression is infact a Windows 10 related issue.
In 3D testing I did recently on Windows 10, the title which illustrated the biggest SMT regression was Total War: Warhammer.



All of these were recorded at 3.5GHz, 2133MHz MEMCLK with R9 Nano:

Windows 10 - 1080 Ultra DX11:

8C/16T - 49.39fps (Min), 72.36fps (Avg)
8C/8T - 57.16fps (Min), 72.46fps (Avg)

Windows 7 - 1080 Ultra DX11:

8C/16T - 62.33fps (Min), 78.18fps (Avg)
8C/8T - 62.00fps (Min), 73.22fps (Avg)


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Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-03-06T06:58
倒退嚕
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2017-03-08T21:35
死守win7的有救星了嗎(?
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2017-03-12T10:45
冷門作業系統 不重要 (?
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-03-16T00:18
說好的不支援勒? 那不就跟7代i一樣還能爽用win7
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2017-03-16T10:45
U大濕等多久了
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2017-03-20T02:13
低級當有趣?
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-03-23T19:14
最後是Win10不支援SMT?!
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2017-03-23T23:10
應該是支援smt讓效能更差
John avatar
By John
at 2017-03-26T11:24
搞笑 這差的有點多
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2017-03-28T21:25
win7再戰10年
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2017-03-31T02:34
目前WIN10 線程調度上還有問題
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2017-04-02T21:04
記得draw call效率上 W7好像贏了W10 17%左右...
總之 坐等更新
另外linux 也有一些gaming的測試
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2017-04-05T02:01
win10不意外
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2017-04-09T22:27
由於kernel已經patch過了 應該沒有線程調度上的問題
目前看起來是vulkan上面有些問題 不排除DX12也有類
似的問題
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-04-14T11:45
看來幾個月後遊戲跑分會再增加
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2017-04-17T18:02
可以看這篇 https://goo.gl/s44l4o dota2的測試
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-04-21T15:32
在vulkan上面 直接fps剩1/3 滿慘的
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2017-04-21T20:54
bug一大堆
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2017-04-23T05:12
反正目前用vulkan的好像只有冷門遊戲DOOM
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2017-04-25T04:32
忘了DOTA2 (跪
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2017-04-28T23:23
三個月後冰河期到來,一堆冷門出現(x
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2017-05-02T05:16
剛上效能先上個debuff都快變成傳統惹
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-05-03T05:49
這下尷尬了
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2017-05-07T11:50
買未來
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2017-05-10T19:21
買過去
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-05-11T05:48
win7解放ryzen嗎 我只看標題回QQ
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-05-13T14:59
啊哈哈哈哈 Win10 UCCU
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2017-05-14T08:59
等patch吧 win7不一定有 但win10會有吧
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-05-15T14:41
封印解除~~~~~~~(by 木之本櫻)
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2017-05-18T17:03
卍解
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-05-21T19:23
冷門遊.. 咦?
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-05-23T01:45
現在已知l3在兩個ccx交換很慢 要調整盡量不要跨ccx
交換嘍
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-05-27T17:56
買AMD就是未來性 你們懂什麼 (咦
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-05-31T14:39
幾個月後win10要變冷門作業系統了....
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2017-06-03T19:55
買AMD,我看不見未來
只有當下好像花得比較少,未來整個平台壽命算下去
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-06-06T01:10
大濕你的460...
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-06-07T19:25
甚至撇開Ryzen不說,其他產品也會讓電費增加
460還真的只有當下比較便宜 而且還壞了一張
David avatar
By David
at 2017-06-11T19:40
技術上來說 你的RX460壞的也是不是die或pcb的問題
只是板卡廠的散熱器品質不好而已
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2017-06-13T22:09
還壞了一張是囤很多460 其中一個壞了的意思嗎?
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2017-06-18T10:43
像是750連冷氣費都省了呢
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-06-18T17:39
當時買460有個考量就是14nm聽起來比較厲害
可惜1050不久後就出了...
但用得好好的也不想換了 畢竟已經先壞了一張
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-06-18T19:12
這只是行銷能力的差距;不然INTEL SKYLAKE有凍結BUG
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2017-06-19T11:36
看看有多少人在意
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-06-23T18:10
500收大濕加持的460 讓你圓夢換1050
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-06-28T05:23
這是因為Nano+DX11拔 自然W7有優勢
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-06-28T15:29
大濕前幾天不是在嗆ryzen不支援win7,現在支援了,
又一堆毛,而且搞半天大濕也不會買,真的很難伺候耶
David avatar
By David
at 2017-06-30T01:02
沒啦 大師說二號機會買就是會買.........
應該趕快慫恿大濕開箱才對
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-07-01T20:26
期待大濕Ryzen開箱文
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2017-07-02T15:48
XP再戰百年
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-07-03T09:04
大師CPU也換14nm的吧
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-07-07T04:04
幹話王:買AMD我看不到未來。 但我用RYZEN 3+RX460
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2017-07-10T12:38
對耶 那大濕怎不把你的E3換掉 不是想要14nm
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2017-07-12T03:26
win7 在戰10年!!
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-07-16T20:09
大濕該不會要組2號機來跟1號機對幹...
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-07-20T21:19
乾...找不到關SMT的地方
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2017-07-25T17:20
死守win7的爽到了嗎
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2017-07-29T09:50
坐等大濕RYZEN開箱文+1
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2017-07-30T22:50
大濕最近愈來愈退步了...累了嗎
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2017-08-01T19:02
看起來gaming還有空間可以優化
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-08-03T17:39
L3那個問題是為什麼啊? 這次又不是用膠水黏的
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-08-08T12:13
買AMD你看不到未來? 那你賣掉去買1050啊,呵呵
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2017-08-09T03:59
兩個CCX的L3是獨立的 用Infinity Fabric 交換資料
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2017-08-11T11:50
但是這樣交換速度還是比不上共用的 X99共用L3速度
就都一致 如果兩個Core要跨CCX交換就會慢三倍
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-08-14T05:59
之後調整成盡量不要跨CCX交換就好了
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2017-08-15T04:32
http://www.evolife.cn/computer/54351.html/6
相關的測試
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2017-08-19T05:26
看來AMD為了省事 一個產品打全部所以這樣搞
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-08-24T01:36
這樣設計擴充容易吧
想出個猛翻天的1900X再加一組CCX就好了
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-08-25T18:33
而且這OS都還能調整救回來就還好
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-08-27T05:33
算是妥協吧
不知道CCX交換效率還有沒有提昇的餘地?
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2017-08-28T10:51
Chip都做完沒機會改變物理的速度了吧 除非新版加強
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-08-30T14:50
我當然不是指這一代QQ
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2017-08-31T12:29
OS把她當兩顆CPU來用可能效果都會比較好
Una avatar
By Una
at 2017-09-04T15:11
一個模組都有四個核心了 其實這問題對一般用戶沒差
只是OS方面大概要針對這個做出調整
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2017-09-07T13:56
AMD吧那邊有傳言說在寫Win10補釘摟
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-09-09T20:13
沒寫我才覺得神奇QQ
萬一它用22切你怎麼辦QQ(我猜應該不會
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2017-09-14T12:39
買R5四核就沒這煩惱了XD
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2017-09-15T12:39
尷尬了 這樣我怎麼偷嘴w7
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2017-09-16T13:37
6C據說是3+3 R5有可能是2+2
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2017-09-18T23:59
畢竟有可能是因為坐壞了打下去 沒這麼好運都壞同邊
而且這次AMD軟體可以直接調整怎麼關 說不定到時候可
以自己選
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2017-09-23T07:57
6C聽說有可能3+3或4+2不是QQ
爛整個模組蠻有可能的吧?
2+2感覺就幾乎爛光了
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-09-26T19:49
是一個光罩用到底的意思?沒有單個CCX的四核喔==
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2017-10-01T06:46
然後就莫名被破解 變成開核!?
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-10-03T22:13
有消息是只有一種晶片摟 之後應該還是會做過
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-10-06T19:13
要有也是等APU出來之後了吧 GF產能別太期待
如果靠GF就只有一個fab8能產喔 同時還要產GPU
應該沒有多餘產線能夠開出來的餘力
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2017-10-08T06:39
省成這樣
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-10-13T00:45
沒多開不一定是省的阿 只是沒心力去Tune了吧
良率應該也不理想 只做一個CCX壞太多就浪費了
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-10-17T16:09
4C好像才44mm2 GF良率還能爛可以死一死惹QQ
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2017-10-21T20:59
不過照目前的情況 一些核心吃不多的東西 關到剩一組
CCX說不定效能會飛升?
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-10-22T12:00
與其你特地關 讓OS分配的時候分好比較快吧QQ
NB產品不知道今年會不會出 跟APU一起上?
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-10-23T10:25
蠻想看Ryzen這種塞一堆IO的在NB上表現如何
該不會真的直接連NB產線都拿同一個上?
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2017-10-24T06:50
應該是桌機server筆電都同一顆吧
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2017-10-26T03:52
一招打天下也太扯惹QQ NB應該會另外一顆啦 頂多作到
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2017-10-29T10:21
4C而已 拿8C的去就算關掉也會浪費一點電
Server可能真的就膠水黏一黏直接上...
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-10-31T08:59
這顆真的很威吧 算一下1700 8c16T 65w
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-11-04T06:07
拉低點頻率 server跟NB都可以吃的下
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2017-11-06T11:42
拿TDP去看實際功耗會有點落差QQ 不過功耗是蠻OK的
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2017-11-10T10:21
有看到遊戲測試 測的看起來都比較新的遊戲
2+2 < 4 < 3+3 < 4+4
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-11-11T20:17
Naples 2.5G 32C 就1700四顆黏一起 降頻
效能比Intel一堆server cpu好又便宜
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-11-12T19:54
https://goo.gl/MXqPVn
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2017-11-15T09:04
AMD應該沒有像 Intel那種每種產品開光罩的錢
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-11-18T04:02
真的會有2+2那種烙賽貨色喔...
NB不太可能直接拿8C關4C上吧...功耗很重要的
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2017-11-19T13:39
當初在設計這顆CPU 應該就有考慮到如何彌補
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-11-24T12:14
又要像當年推土機期待補釘了嗎
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2017-11-24T15:43
代工夥伴的劣勢
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2017-11-26T06:56
不對吧 它這個是拿1800X關核心測試呢QQ
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2017-11-29T16:04
測CCX的狀況阿
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2017-12-01T09:16
到時候實際產品會怎樣還不知道 但運氣不好抽到就..
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2017-12-03T05:29
我還以為是真的有消息流出...
沒那麼屎拿2+2出來賣吧...
GF烙賽也有個限度QQ
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-12-07T01:40
用 vulkan 效能比較好的印象中沒幾片吧
哪家 CPU 都一樣
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-12-07T12:35
最好的只有DOOM吧....
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2017-12-09T06:33
還有The Talos Principle 也是很早就弄 vulkan port
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-12-11T01:48
WIN7黑科技..
George avatar
By George
at 2017-12-11T10:54
Win7和Win10分配核心方式有異QQ
David avatar
By David
at 2017-12-16T00:39
冷門版
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2017-12-19T10:34
我記得最直接就是Win7只會先用實體核心的其中一個
線程而Win10則是平均分配沒有先後
會是因為這樣所以效果有差嗎
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2017-12-23T07:26
M軟:請外星人寫程式害到自己
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-12-24T22:58
反正是0~3一個CCX 4~7一個 要是分齊中一邊就會比較
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2017-12-25T20:36
平均分配感覺效能會比較差的說
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-12-27T14:37
平均分配=沒支援HT=把HT分出的核心當實體核心
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2017-12-30T08:16
拜託大濕別買AMD 會被搞臭 請繼續當i家的豬隊友
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2018-01-03T13:10
期待大溼去買7350k展示單核屌打的威風,呵呵呵
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-01-07T03:04
不是不支援win7
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2018-01-09T03:50
HT分出的核心...大濕這說法有失I級戰將風範
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2018-01-10T12:27
為啥很多以為發售日效能測出來就永遠不會變........
我個人認為之後透過很多更新補丁,效能還會衝很多
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2018-01-11T11:42
跑分應該是不會多太多
但是實際是使用才能更貼近該有的性能一點
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2018-01-13T22:30
因為i皇已經很多代都不會動惹QQ
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2018-01-14T13:31
不過當初Core i出來的時候也是一堆毛
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2018-01-17T21:46
幫i皇debug是榮耀,幫農企debug就是罪孽
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2018-01-21T13:45
睡死那種小問題不重要啦 買intel的都馬很有錢 電
腦都開著不會關 睡眠模式一輩子都用不到
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-01-22T19:20
clk會掛掉整顆死掉也沒差 反正買一顆新的小錢
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2018-01-26T04:05
後面那個會不會太過分QQ
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2018-01-30T03:29
廠商還差點被堵住嘴想裝死到底啊
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2018-02-02T19:35
是阿痛那個嗎?
James avatar
By James
at 2018-02-03T06:06
是啊
James avatar
By James
at 2018-02-05T23:59
軟體也是要tune拉
大濕已經開是ATOM不是INTEL的強項
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2018-02-09T00:55
大濕已經開示ATOM不是INTEL的強項
Intimer掛掉正常
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2018-02-10T19:58
大濕不小心放出真心話
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2018-02-11T04:30
WIN7重返農藥?
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2018-02-11T10:05
如果真的是NUCA L3的鍋的話,那patch當兩顆用應該就
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-02-13T19:10
ok了,如果有win server 2016說不定可以測試看看
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-02-16T12:40
難怪總有推文WIN7再戰10年 原來都是真的 微軟爛透
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-02-18T08:06
atom本來就不是intel的強項
intel強的是高效能產品
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2018-02-22T01:40
蔣幹畫?
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2018-02-22T16:36
ATOM不也是CPU? CPU不是強項那到底是...
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2018-02-26T06:06
原來不是強項就能裝定時器自爆阿(筆記
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2018-02-26T22:13
Intel有弱點沒關係 但是Ryzen的PCIe lane絕對嘴到
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2018-03-01T05:32
所以zen確定還是可以灌win7對嗎
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-03-04T13:23
是的
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2018-03-09T01:45
ATOM就只會痛而已
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-03-11T23:06
不能灌怎會有測試數據呢?通靈?
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2018-03-15T22:23
版廠都有出win7和8、8.1驅動可以裝了,為啥不能裝
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2018-03-16T11:15
所以之前所有評測在win10系統上的都不準瞜~

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Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2017-03-05T08:40
https://www.facebook.com/hinet/posts/10154617131693318 前幾天把剛換下來的顯卡丟到露天、旋轉跟蝦皮做測試,蝦皮在24小時內有兩次出價,旋 轉在兩小時內售出。 特別的是,旋轉上的買家是ㄧ位在桃園日立工作的菲律賓工人,一開始他打著奇怪的簡體 中文,後來看他 ...

40k 實況機

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By Edith
at 2017-03-05T02:47
已買/未買/已付訂金(元):未買 預算/用途:VR實況機 CPU (中央處理器):Intel I7-7700 MB (主機板):微星 B250M MORTAR ARCTIC RAM (記憶體):金士頓 8G DDR4-2400*2 VGA (顯示卡):微星 GTX 1070 AR ...

4K遊戲菜單請益

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By Poppy
at 2017-03-05T02:00
已買/未買/已付訂金(元):未買40000 預算/用途:遊戲 和觀賞用所以燈越多越好 CPU (中央處理器):r7 1700 MB (主機板):asrock killer SLI RAM (記憶體):最近有GSKILL的RGB 8GX2 VGA (顯示卡):不確定 HDD ...

電腦升級 ssd選擇

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By Faithe
at 2017-03-05T01:52
先貼個電腦配備 Cpu: i5-3470 Ram: Kingston ddr3 4*2 Mb: Asus p8h77-m pro Gpu: G心Rx470-4G Power: antec neo ceo II 550w HDD: TOSHIBA 1T 雖然現在ssd也漲 但是沒ram這麼誇張 小弟菜鳥爬 ...

請問 intel DH67CL主板支援E3-1230嗎?

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By Zenobia
at 2017-03-05T01:39
最近剛買到這張板子 intel DH67CL 想入手e3-1230(SANDY BRIDGE)版本看看 (但CPU還沒買) 查了INTEL的官方卻沒有再支援名單? http://processormatch.intel.com/Processors/CompatibilityPDF?Length=10 可 ...