Spotify正式槓上蘋果!控訴App Store故意 - 手機討論

By Ina
at 2019-03-16T16:25
at 2019-03-16T16:25
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※ 引述《Heathclifff (+300)》之銘言:
: Apps that are free to you aren’t charged by Apple.
: Apps that earn revenue exclusively through advertising — like some of your fa
: vorite free games — aren’t charged by Apple.
: App business transactions where users sign up or purchase digital goods outsid
: e the app aren’t charged by Apple.
: Apps that sell physical goods — including ride-hailing and food delivery serv
: ices, to name a few — aren’t charged by Apple.
: The only contribution that Apple requires is for digital goods and services th
: at are purchased inside the app using our secure in-app purchase system. As Sp
: otify points out, that revenue share is 30 percent for the first year of an an
: nual subscription — but they left out that it drops to 15 percent in the year
: s after.
: Apple跟你收錢的地方就只有在使用apple提供的app內付費購買機制的時候
: 其他來源不太管
: 大概就是你從其他地方給錢 apple不管
: 詳細我也不知道,看有沒有人提供嘍
: 還有 只有上架第一年的才是收30%
: 之後都收15%
: Apple在這篇聲明的核心
: 大概就是:
: Spotify的出發點也只是為了錢
: 沒有我的平台扶植你也沒有今天
: 等你壯大了之後
: 才試圖把所有利益延攬到自己身上
: 並且實際上也沒阻擾你的發展
: 是你自己想鑽漏洞
: 看完apple的主張之後,是否又有一些別的想法呢?
英文不好不是問題,不要亂翻譯來誤導別人,以為都沒人看得懂。
As Sotify points out, that revenue share is 30 percent for the first year of an
anual subscription — but they left out that it drops to 15 percent in the
yeas after.
你翻成只有上架第一年才收30%
What?????認真????
subscription這個詞就算看不懂也拜託去查一下好嗎= =?
年費訂閱,首年蘋果抽30%,次年後降到抽15%
你可以翻譯成App上架第一年抽30%????
Hello,請問月訂閱的獲利?
然後護航說蘋果不會抽成Spotify透過其他管道獲取的收入
廢話 不透過App Store是要怎麼抽?
然後你還禁止人家在App內導向其他管道收費 甚至連宣傳都不行
說自己不會抽他們其他管道獲取的收入 不覺得太好笑?
: 嘛公平的部分我就不知道了
: 留給專家評斷嘍
整篇一大堆字的重點就是在講不公平的商業模式,
結果草草一句話說我不知道,無言。
Spotify的想法就是:誰都可以給我抽,但是你身為競爭者,不該抽。
你透過壟斷平台,強抽30%,OK這可以接受,畢竟我要上架就要符合規則,
但你今天在我的創新服務成功後,看見我的成功,
就挾著壟斷優勢殺進市場提供一模一樣的服務,而且還開機就內建。
而你有30%優勢,我沒有,我只能比你貴,或者跟你一樣價錢但是賠錢。
今天有Spotify中招,明天就有別人中招,
而我們也看到明天到了,Netflix即將中招了。
後天是誰中招?
這種商業模式公平與否? 會不會造成創新服務的擔憂? 門檻?絆腳石?
不難理解。
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: Apps that are free to you aren’t charged by Apple.
: Apps that earn revenue exclusively through advertising — like some of your fa
: vorite free games — aren’t charged by Apple.
: App business transactions where users sign up or purchase digital goods outsid
: e the app aren’t charged by Apple.
: Apps that sell physical goods — including ride-hailing and food delivery serv
: ices, to name a few — aren’t charged by Apple.
: The only contribution that Apple requires is for digital goods and services th
: at are purchased inside the app using our secure in-app purchase system. As Sp
: otify points out, that revenue share is 30 percent for the first year of an an
: nual subscription — but they left out that it drops to 15 percent in the year
: s after.
: Apple跟你收錢的地方就只有在使用apple提供的app內付費購買機制的時候
: 其他來源不太管
: 大概就是你從其他地方給錢 apple不管
: 詳細我也不知道,看有沒有人提供嘍
: 還有 只有上架第一年的才是收30%
: 之後都收15%
: Apple在這篇聲明的核心
: 大概就是:
: Spotify的出發點也只是為了錢
: 沒有我的平台扶植你也沒有今天
: 等你壯大了之後
: 才試圖把所有利益延攬到自己身上
: 並且實際上也沒阻擾你的發展
: 是你自己想鑽漏洞
: 看完apple的主張之後,是否又有一些別的想法呢?
英文不好不是問題,不要亂翻譯來誤導別人,以為都沒人看得懂。
As Sotify points out, that revenue share is 30 percent for the first year of an
anual subscription — but they left out that it drops to 15 percent in the
yeas after.
你翻成只有上架第一年才收30%
What?????認真????
subscription這個詞就算看不懂也拜託去查一下好嗎= =?
年費訂閱,首年蘋果抽30%,次年後降到抽15%
你可以翻譯成App上架第一年抽30%????
Hello,請問月訂閱的獲利?
然後護航說蘋果不會抽成Spotify透過其他管道獲取的收入
廢話 不透過App Store是要怎麼抽?
然後你還禁止人家在App內導向其他管道收費 甚至連宣傳都不行
說自己不會抽他們其他管道獲取的收入 不覺得太好笑?
: 嘛公平的部分我就不知道了
: 留給專家評斷嘍
整篇一大堆字的重點就是在講不公平的商業模式,
結果草草一句話說我不知道,無言。
Spotify的想法就是:誰都可以給我抽,但是你身為競爭者,不該抽。
你透過壟斷平台,強抽30%,OK這可以接受,畢竟我要上架就要符合規則,
但你今天在我的創新服務成功後,看見我的成功,
就挾著壟斷優勢殺進市場提供一模一樣的服務,而且還開機就內建。
而你有30%優勢,我沒有,我只能比你貴,或者跟你一樣價錢但是賠錢。
今天有Spotify中招,明天就有別人中招,
而我們也看到明天到了,Netflix即將中招了。
後天是誰中招?
這種商業模式公平與否? 會不會造成創新服務的擔憂? 門檻?絆腳石?
不難理解。
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