Xperia 1 III 東京拍照實測 - 手機討論

By Charlie
at 2021-07-09T19:50
at 2021-07-09T19:50
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※ 引述《RieX (香蕉狗)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《tk1211 (THE FRUSTRATED)》之銘言:
: : https://youtu.be/VcfJKfB5rKM
: : 錢準備好了,希望Sony認真考慮出個可以快拆的橫向握把 搭配手機的快門鍵使用
: : Xperia這代旗艦一樣沒有night sight
: : 但夜拍看起來完全沒問題啊
: : - -
: : 影片連結下有提供幾張照片原檔下載
: : -----
: : Sent from JPTT on my Sony J9110.
: 基本上日拍無爛機,就看各家風格對不對自己胃口,主要分水嶺還是在夜拍
: 這影片讓人下載的樣圖只有3張,夜拍只有一張晴空塔
: 想參考其他夜景只能從影片中的樣圖來截圖。
: 截圖的關係簡單看看就好,最明顯就是亮處似乎已經全曝掉,室內跟招牌之類
: 快門差滿多的,一個1/30秒,一個4秒,但結果都一樣
: 也許這就是SONY追求的"真實"吧。
: https://i.imgur.com/xyJggFR.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/0sO2758.jpg
: 令人擔心的白天高反差場景,測光測到人 背景就炸,背景稍微OK人就黑掉
: https://i.imgur.com/wVrSYts.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/g1FihqV.jpg
: xperia mkIII,SONY這次花了很多心力在宣傳,而對於SONY手機至今的情況,
: 我說一些個人的想法 "照相應該是SONY最不該有毛病的地方才對"。
: 現在SONY對於拍照的做法就是丟一個單眼級的手動模式出來,然後不斷宣傳它
: 我覺得這是個很不負責任的做法,為什麼?
: 因為手機先天的光學缺陷,光圈不可調,變焦基本又半殘,整體光學結構小不拉基
: 這種情況去丟一個S、P、M的操作模式給他?
: 難道單把神A(Altis)的駕駛座改成F1同款,操作方式全換成F1,這車就會飛了不成?
: 手機因為先天的光學缺陷,導致目前必須去朝演算法發展,
: 像是谷歌pixel、蘋果,都是佼佼者。
: 我不清楚SONY是怎麼看待手機照相面臨的問題,我無奈的是
: 現在這情況給我的感覺很像
: "喔,演算法這東西我沒有,也搞不定,
: 不如就改改照相UI,做個photo pro出來,然後你們自己想辦法吧"
週末了比較有空來回一下,請大師評論一下以下幾張照片
先是相機直出的部份
http://i.imgur.com/bUZUKpA.jpg
Sony自家RX100 VI拍背光人像 爆天空
http://i.imgur.com/ROhkOA1.jpg
A7 III拍逆光街景 為了前景維持一定程度曝光一樣背景爆掉
http://i.imgur.com/iZ295Nx.jpg
Nikon D750手持夜拍 招牌櫥窗整個變成一片光
http://i.imgur.com/N9yVwMT.jpg
Nikon Z5手持夜拍 公寓大樓每戶都被閃光彈砸到了
http://i.imgur.com/7W2tSHG.jpg
Ricoh GR III背光 天空死白
http://i.imgur.com/PrJTzEe.jpg
Ricoh GR III背光 天空死白再一張
http://i.imgur.com/7IuCKYi.jpg
上面同一張照片 但這次是RAW修過再出圖,本來一片死白的天空出現一點藍了(表示現場本來其實不是陰天)
再來下面都是RAW經過後製的照片
http://i.imgur.com/TyhJty9.jpg
Panasonic S5 以這個背景爆成這樣的程度,如果要以評價Sony手機的標準來看肯定要鞭到體無完膚的
http://i.imgur.com/VEmNIYO.jpg
Nikon D6 同上
http://i.imgur.com/6Sv16NV.jpg
Nikon Z7 同上
http://i.imgur.com/q9D6pY6.jpg
Sony A7C 同上
http://i.imgur.com/Gdys94s.jpg
Nikon Z5 都拍raw修圖了暗處還這樣黑一片細節都沒出來,差評?
上面這些照片出處都是來自dpreview
全世界數一數二的專業相機評測網站,要說這些照片每張都拍得很差沒有發揮機器該有的實力我想是不至於
修過的raw照片網站上也都特別標明已經有動過曝光 拉曲線,可是即便是這樣拍出來的"HDR"效果也遠不及現今手機的計算攝影 自動多幀合成
那代入你的邏輯,直出不行 有些修圖也拉不回來
所以以上這些片幅涵蓋APS-C跟FF的機器都充滿光學缺陷?
上面這些照片證明即使是當今的旗艦單反 無反在遇到一些極度高反差的場景也無法做到你從某些手機靠演算才能得到的結果,但這不代表它們拍不了好照片
而今天sony擺明了就沒有要走計算攝影的道路,很多人說sony手機拍出來的照片比較自然 真實
比較的對象其實不是我們人眼所看到的景象,而是說sony手機照片的色彩 曝光取向更偏這些專業相機與傳統攝影的邏輯
拍照沒有什麼絕對的好與不好,所以我之前才會在某篇推文放下面這篇文章的連結
https://www.wonderfoto.com/news/-ep8
"無論手動或自動曝光,都可以拍照,沒有「對」或者「不對」的區別"
"一切都是取決於你拍攝的需求,絕對沒有哪一種比較「厲害」"
如果一定要要求得達到Pixel還是新iPhone那種近乎變態的HDR效果才算是能拍出好照片的手機,那只能說你眼光太狹隘了
-----
Sent from JPTT on my Sony J9110.
--
: ※ 引述《tk1211 (THE FRUSTRATED)》之銘言:
: : https://youtu.be/VcfJKfB5rKM
: : Xperia這代旗艦一樣沒有night sight
: : 但夜拍看起來完全沒問題啊
: : - -
: : 影片連結下有提供幾張照片原檔下載
: : -----
: : Sent from JPTT on my Sony J9110.
: 基本上日拍無爛機,就看各家風格對不對自己胃口,主要分水嶺還是在夜拍
: 這影片讓人下載的樣圖只有3張,夜拍只有一張晴空塔
: 想參考其他夜景只能從影片中的樣圖來截圖。
: 截圖的關係簡單看看就好,最明顯就是亮處似乎已經全曝掉,室內跟招牌之類
: 快門差滿多的,一個1/30秒,一個4秒,但結果都一樣
: 也許這就是SONY追求的"真實"吧。
: https://i.imgur.com/xyJggFR.jpg


: https://i.imgur.com/wVrSYts.jpg


: 我說一些個人的想法 "照相應該是SONY最不該有毛病的地方才對"。
: 現在SONY對於拍照的做法就是丟一個單眼級的手動模式出來,然後不斷宣傳它
: 我覺得這是個很不負責任的做法,為什麼?
: 因為手機先天的光學缺陷,光圈不可調,變焦基本又半殘,整體光學結構小不拉基
: 這種情況去丟一個S、P、M的操作模式給他?
: 難道單把神A(Altis)的駕駛座改成F1同款,操作方式全換成F1,這車就會飛了不成?
: 手機因為先天的光學缺陷,導致目前必須去朝演算法發展,
: 像是谷歌pixel、蘋果,都是佼佼者。
: 我不清楚SONY是怎麼看待手機照相面臨的問題,我無奈的是
: 現在這情況給我的感覺很像
: "喔,演算法這東西我沒有,也搞不定,
: 不如就改改照相UI,做個photo pro出來,然後你們自己想辦法吧"
週末了比較有空來回一下,請大師評論一下以下幾張照片
先是相機直出的部份
http://i.imgur.com/bUZUKpA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ROhkOA1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iZ295Nx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/N9yVwMT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7W2tSHG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PrJTzEe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7IuCKYi.jpg

再來下面都是RAW經過後製的照片
http://i.imgur.com/TyhJty9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VEmNIYO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6Sv16NV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q9D6pY6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Gdys94s.jpg

上面這些照片出處都是來自dpreview
全世界數一數二的專業相機評測網站,要說這些照片每張都拍得很差沒有發揮機器該有的實力我想是不至於
修過的raw照片網站上也都特別標明已經有動過曝光 拉曲線,可是即便是這樣拍出來的"HDR"效果也遠不及現今手機的計算攝影 自動多幀合成
那代入你的邏輯,直出不行 有些修圖也拉不回來
所以以上這些片幅涵蓋APS-C跟FF的機器都充滿光學缺陷?
上面這些照片證明即使是當今的旗艦單反 無反在遇到一些極度高反差的場景也無法做到你從某些手機靠演算才能得到的結果,但這不代表它們拍不了好照片
而今天sony擺明了就沒有要走計算攝影的道路,很多人說sony手機拍出來的照片比較自然 真實
比較的對象其實不是我們人眼所看到的景象,而是說sony手機照片的色彩 曝光取向更偏這些專業相機與傳統攝影的邏輯
拍照沒有什麼絕對的好與不好,所以我之前才會在某篇推文放下面這篇文章的連結
https://www.wonderfoto.com/news/-ep8
"無論手動或自動曝光,都可以拍照,沒有「對」或者「不對」的區別"
"一切都是取決於你拍攝的需求,絕對沒有哪一種比較「厲害」"
如果一定要要求得達到Pixel還是新iPhone那種近乎變態的HDR效果才算是能拍出好照片的手機,那只能說你眼光太狹隘了
-----
Sent from JPTT on my Sony J9110.
--
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