「違反業務衝突」 蘋果將Steam Link App - 手機討論
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By Faithe
at 2018-05-28T17:27
at 2018-05-28T17:27
Table of Contents
: 蘋果官方說法
: https://goo.gl/PTyFsy
: Thank you for your email and being a customer of Apple products and the App
: Store.
: We care deeply about bringing great games to all of our users on the App
: Store. We would love for Valve’s games and services to be on iOS and AppleTV.
: Unfortunately, the review team found that Valve’s Steam iOS app, as
: currently submitted, violates a number of guidelines around user generated
: content, in-app purchases, content codes, etc. We’ve discussed these issues
: with Valve and will continue to work with them to help bring the Steam
: experience to iOS and AppleTV in a way that complies with the store’s
: guidelines.
: We put great effort into creating an App Store that provides the very best
: experience for everyone. We have clear guidelines that all developers must
: follow in order to ensure the App Store is a safe place for all users and a
: fair opportunity for all developers.
: Sincerely,
: Phil
身為一個iOS APP Developer,上架過不少APP也遇過各種蘋果的龜毛,
前陣子更因為業務需求研究了該如何實做金流並逃開抽成,說說我的看法:
首先聊聊關於IAP的規定:
1.(IAP) in-App Purchase,意即APP內的購買,跟上架一樣需要給蘋果30%的稅金
2.就算你沒有在APP內做購買界面,但有暗示使用者在APP外購買(APP內輸入序號)也不行
3.但如果購買的商品並非用於APP而是現實世界,
看你要在APP接Apple Pay (示意圖:https://i.imgur.com/4AF94de.png)、
第三方支付(輸入卡號) (示意圖:https://i.imgur.com/DvfBD9R.jpg)
蘋果都接受而且不會抽半毛錢。
(但還是有細微的規範,如給用戶必要的提示跟按鈕一定要官方給的那顆之類)
什麼叫做現實世界呢?
也就是大到買桌子買椅子、小到買機票買車票、甚至繳交課程報名費或協會會員會費
蘋果都不會抽的,也沒那麼智障。
但有一個比較奇怪的例子。
在APP內買雜誌並會寄電子版到你的email -> 不屬於IAP,蘋果不會抽
在APP內買雜誌並在APP中閱覽 -> 抱歉,屬於擴增APP內容,要走IAP給蘋果抽。
=========
今天回到這個例子,
首先,Steam有iOSAPP,並且可以購買遊戲走第三方支付不用抽
https://i.imgur.com/VwAUN74.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7WaccRF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DvfBD9R.jpg
很合理,我只是透過APP買,又沒有擴增這個APP的應用,OK。
那為什麼今天Steam Link會被擋呢?
我們用Apple的邏輯「猜想」想一下,
你在Steam Link上買了遊戲,於是你可以擴增Steam Link的體驗 =>叭叭,這應該是IAP
嘛,是有點奇怪,但很符合Apple龜毛跟死板的想法沒錯。
--
那這個Case最後會怎麼發展?
我猜會變成Steam App 買遊戲、Steam Link拿掉商店功能。
雖然看起來多此一舉,但符合Apple邏輯沒問題。
你可以說這很蠢很呆,但某方面「建立規矩」並「要求開發者跟使用者守規矩」
一直是Apple的特點,應該算不上貪婪啦(除非Apple接下來把Steam App下架)
--
: https://goo.gl/PTyFsy
: Thank you for your email and being a customer of Apple products and the App
: Store.
: We care deeply about bringing great games to all of our users on the App
: Store. We would love for Valve’s games and services to be on iOS and AppleTV.
: Unfortunately, the review team found that Valve’s Steam iOS app, as
: currently submitted, violates a number of guidelines around user generated
: content, in-app purchases, content codes, etc. We’ve discussed these issues
: with Valve and will continue to work with them to help bring the Steam
: experience to iOS and AppleTV in a way that complies with the store’s
: guidelines.
: We put great effort into creating an App Store that provides the very best
: experience for everyone. We have clear guidelines that all developers must
: follow in order to ensure the App Store is a safe place for all users and a
: fair opportunity for all developers.
: Sincerely,
: Phil
身為一個iOS APP Developer,上架過不少APP也遇過各種蘋果的龜毛,
前陣子更因為業務需求研究了該如何實做金流並逃開抽成,說說我的看法:
首先聊聊關於IAP的規定:
1.(IAP) in-App Purchase,意即APP內的購買,跟上架一樣需要給蘋果30%的稅金
2.就算你沒有在APP內做購買界面,但有暗示使用者在APP外購買(APP內輸入序號)也不行
3.但如果購買的商品並非用於APP而是現實世界,
看你要在APP接Apple Pay (示意圖:https://i.imgur.com/4AF94de.png)、
第三方支付(輸入卡號) (示意圖:https://i.imgur.com/DvfBD9R.jpg)
蘋果都接受而且不會抽半毛錢。
(但還是有細微的規範,如給用戶必要的提示跟按鈕一定要官方給的那顆之類)
什麼叫做現實世界呢?
也就是大到買桌子買椅子、小到買機票買車票、甚至繳交課程報名費或協會會員會費
蘋果都不會抽的,也沒那麼智障。
但有一個比較奇怪的例子。
在APP內買雜誌並會寄電子版到你的email -> 不屬於IAP,蘋果不會抽
在APP內買雜誌並在APP中閱覽 -> 抱歉,屬於擴增APP內容,要走IAP給蘋果抽。
=========
今天回到這個例子,
首先,Steam有iOSAPP,並且可以購買遊戲走第三方支付不用抽
https://i.imgur.com/VwAUN74.jpg
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/VwAUN74l.jpg?e=1639693398&s=IPCYbYtW4seFvG9CYgIkYw)
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/7WaccRFl.jpg?e=1639667131&s=UGlayaSqEdOwWR6YuIbYng)
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/DvfBD9Rl.jpg?e=1639705829&s=qrenOxMjICJD9alnGF7IFw)
很合理,我只是透過APP買,又沒有擴增這個APP的應用,OK。
那為什麼今天Steam Link會被擋呢?
我們用Apple的邏輯「猜想」想一下,
你在Steam Link上買了遊戲,於是你可以擴增Steam Link的體驗 =>叭叭,這應該是IAP
嘛,是有點奇怪,但很符合Apple龜毛跟死板的想法沒錯。
--
那這個Case最後會怎麼發展?
我猜會變成Steam App 買遊戲、Steam Link拿掉商店功能。
雖然看起來多此一舉,但符合Apple邏輯沒問題。
你可以說這很蠢很呆,但某方面「建立規矩」並「要求開發者跟使用者守規矩」
一直是Apple的特點,應該算不上貪婪啦(除非Apple接下來把Steam App下架)
--
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