如果酒精不行,次氯酸水會傷螢幕嗎? - 手機討論

By Aaliyah
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僅保留化學相關前文,並針對化學消毒等議題做些討論。
首先帶給大家一個觀念,氯系消毒劑(氯氣、二氧化氯、次氯酸及其鹽類),
應用於水體或環境表面消毒的有效成分為ClO- , 有效濃度約為200ppm。這個有效濃度
是國內外文獻及業界標準支持。
第二,氯系消毒劑在溶於水或鹼性環境作為載體時,目的均為產生次氯酸ClO-,
殺菌原理如前文所述,靠的是氧化電位(或稱氧化能力),因此需要有足夠濃度的ClO-,
ClO-的來源為何相對較不重要。
最後為什麼市面上販售會用鹼性的次氯酸鈉水溶液(漂白水)?
因為次氯酸在酸性環境不穩定,會自行氧化還原產生氧氣+氯酸而失效,
同樣的,次氯酸濃度提高時同樣會發生此反應。
所以次氯酸無法作為穩定商品型態銷售。(濃度太低難用或不易保存)
需用次氯酸+氫氧化鈉的鹼性環境才可以達到較高濃度以利販售及保存
ref: wikipedia-中文 https://i.imgur.com/HezrDdf.png
較高濃度的次氯酸根在強酸環境則產生氯氣,居家使用請注意不要和鹽酸混到會出人命...
如果希望用氯系消毒劑來為手機或家具表面消毒時,
建議以下做法:
1. 市售漂白水約為5% (50,000ppm)
2. 稀釋250倍~1000倍可得 200ppm~50ppm的ClO-,噴灑或抹布擦拭
3. 避光保存,次氯酸根具有光化學活性
4. 稀釋液需要每天新鮮現配。因為稀釋後失去鹼性環境保護次氯酸根
費用... 大家自己算吧XDD 大賣場一桶30-50元的可以用很久了
稀釋比例大家可以看漂白水背後標示:一臉盆加入一個瓶蓋,大約是8L 對 15mL (533倍)
※ 引述《creulfact (小黑)》之銘言:
: 然後這種次氯酸跟漂白水的次氯酸鈉是不一樣的 因為漂白水是次氯酸納溶於水解離後會
: 產生Na+跟ClO-所以是鹼性而且帶腐蝕性 後來稀釋是要利用水裏的H離子與ClO-產生足夠
: 的HClO次氯酸這個型式在消毒 所以一定要稀釋不然沒什麼效,
:但就算稀釋了也大概在500 ppm左右 所以很臭 而且有刺激性
: 可是微酸次氯酸水是直接在水裡調配產生次氯酸並調成酸性
:所以只需要30ppm就能達到很好的滅菌效果市面上大概都是50ppm 這種的刺激性很低(比酒精還低)而且幾乎什麼細菌
: 都能殺 腸病毒啊諾羅啊 然後沒什麼異味
: 不過由於次氯酸的形式沒到很穩定所以保存期限不長 不要照到紫外線不然會分解(陽光
: 之
: 類) 所以別用透明罐裝,然後買便宜的就好 也不是什麼高科技 我自己是買一桶5L才
: $480
前文敘述比較有討論空間的部分是:
1. 腐蝕性: 這和濃度有關
2. 有效濃度、消毒原理、"必須要稀釋"等部分,C大理解可能有誤
如果有想法歡迎提出來討論,
想了解次氯酸根如何殺菌的詳細機轉也可以提出,我想想看怎麼深入淺出聊一下
--
首先帶給大家一個觀念,氯系消毒劑(氯氣、二氧化氯、次氯酸及其鹽類),
應用於水體或環境表面消毒的有效成分為ClO- , 有效濃度約為200ppm。這個有效濃度
是國內外文獻及業界標準支持。
第二,氯系消毒劑在溶於水或鹼性環境作為載體時,目的均為產生次氯酸ClO-,
殺菌原理如前文所述,靠的是氧化電位(或稱氧化能力),因此需要有足夠濃度的ClO-,
ClO-的來源為何相對較不重要。
最後為什麼市面上販售會用鹼性的次氯酸鈉水溶液(漂白水)?
因為次氯酸在酸性環境不穩定,會自行氧化還原產生氧氣+氯酸而失效,
同樣的,次氯酸濃度提高時同樣會發生此反應。
所以次氯酸無法作為穩定商品型態銷售。(濃度太低難用或不易保存)
需用次氯酸+氫氧化鈉的鹼性環境才可以達到較高濃度以利販售及保存
ref: wikipedia-中文 https://i.imgur.com/HezrDdf.png

如果希望用氯系消毒劑來為手機或家具表面消毒時,
建議以下做法:
1. 市售漂白水約為5% (50,000ppm)
2. 稀釋250倍~1000倍可得 200ppm~50ppm的ClO-,噴灑或抹布擦拭
3. 避光保存,次氯酸根具有光化學活性
4. 稀釋液需要每天新鮮現配。因為稀釋後失去鹼性環境保護次氯酸根
費用... 大家自己算吧XDD 大賣場一桶30-50元的可以用很久了
稀釋比例大家可以看漂白水背後標示:一臉盆加入一個瓶蓋,大約是8L 對 15mL (533倍)
※ 引述《creulfact (小黑)》之銘言:
: 然後這種次氯酸跟漂白水的次氯酸鈉是不一樣的 因為漂白水是次氯酸納溶於水解離後會
: 產生Na+跟ClO-所以是鹼性而且帶腐蝕性 後來稀釋是要利用水裏的H離子與ClO-產生足夠
: 的HClO次氯酸這個型式在消毒 所以一定要稀釋不然沒什麼效,
:但就算稀釋了也大概在500 ppm左右 所以很臭 而且有刺激性
: 可是微酸次氯酸水是直接在水裡調配產生次氯酸並調成酸性
:所以只需要30ppm就能達到很好的滅菌效果市面上大概都是50ppm 這種的刺激性很低(比酒精還低)而且幾乎什麼細菌
: 都能殺 腸病毒啊諾羅啊 然後沒什麼異味
: 不過由於次氯酸的形式沒到很穩定所以保存期限不長 不要照到紫外線不然會分解(陽光
: 之
: 類) 所以別用透明罐裝,然後買便宜的就好 也不是什麼高科技 我自己是買一桶5L才
: $480
前文敘述比較有討論空間的部分是:
1. 腐蝕性: 這和濃度有關
2. 有效濃度、消毒原理、"必須要稀釋"等部分,C大理解可能有誤
如果有想法歡迎提出來討論,
想了解次氯酸根如何殺菌的詳細機轉也可以提出,我想想看怎麼深入淺出聊一下
--
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