安裝許多apps但未啟動會否影響速度 - 手機討論

Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2018-06-13T20:46

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每隻手機不一樣,拿我的手機來說3g ram 32g rom 而緩存只有248mb,最底下那個/cache那邊。

https://i.imgur.com/XkDRa62.jpg

先假設大大app控管得宜,那麼ram就算2g而已都可以順順跑,


控管app就像交流道紅綠燈,或是高架橋高乘載限制大巴上去,越是控管得當,路的寬度可以越小。

所以基本上像是大大會控管app的,也只有做到省電或是不塞車。少開一點車省油嘛,少車就不塞車嘛。



你下載安裝app在/data這兒不影響,只有開機讀取,讓我們往下看到/cache,是的你沒看錯,一台3/32gb手機,緩存只有248mb,當然各位大大手機肯定比小弟厲害。


緩存就像是高速公路上限制不管多少車子,不管你控管多少車子,我高速公路只能載248人,一旦有一台車bug忘記自己有載人,還繼續塞人超載,死的不是車子是這個限制248人的高速公路。


所以你如何控管,速度也只是不塞車,但是人數卡在哪兒還是塞人,而解決辦法有兩種。


清垃圾幫你清垃圾啊,哪家手機沒清垃圾內建的,這機制就是讓你android可以使用幾年也很順的理由。


刷原生google的系統,該系統完全優化各種空間,像是我system這空間有多餘,而這多餘是不能使用的,最主要是塞進system的app將會是我手機最信任的app,所以很少,而google原生系統的優化,htc的pixel,小米還是紅米的A1,都存在相同3/32gb手機下更優秀的緩存空間。


很多廠商功能很多,且不佔ram,正在執行的app很少,但垃圾很多,導致每次多工鍵刷了刷,明明什麼都沒有,還是lag,背景程式卻一大堆,整個緩存滿滿滿的,悲劇xddd。




而這也是最近sony收掉某些東西的原因,sony可以說是開發很多有趣玩意,但是xda大神們各種玩玩就丟棄,喜新厭舊,玩玩就丟,因為緩存要清很麻煩,不小心清掉自己想要的,反而要重新設定,就連手機各家廠商都有的天氣app,也漸漸遠離初衷,而被......不說各位大神,我也拋棄,各種殺,不要用就砍,這樣緩存才大。

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Tags: 手機

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Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2018-06-18T13:34
你怎麼還活著啊 我以為你已經泡水去了
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2018-06-23T06:22
我覺得推文很歪,但這種又不好直接google找答案,這篇應該很白話......
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2018-06-27T23:10
https://i.imgur.com/0R0p0BI.png 是不是有什麼誤會還是我的誤解? /cache 分區等於緩存? (非戰)
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2018-07-02T15:58
要詳細還是要知道一個app的組成,想要更深入也可以,但我怕主題跑掉
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2018-07-07T08:46
塞車大家都知道了,給大家理解塞人罷了
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2018-07-12T01:34
在討論會要用英文,我中文不好
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2018-07-16T18:23
請問緩存是什麼中文?
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2018-07-21T11:11
Please do, I am better in English regarding technical matters.
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-07-26T03:59
為啥我覺得樓上句子唸起來好怪 還是我英文太破?
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2018-07-30T20:47
可能英文沒樓上大大的好?
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2018-08-04T13:35
可是我英文真的很破....
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2018-08-09T06:23
jaw: 緩存一般指的是 buffer, cache, 中文的話可翻成緩衝, 快取, 也有源自對岸的緩存
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2018-08-13T23:11
嗯...這兒,我找蠻久的https://goo.gl/Eh6hvG
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2018-08-18T15:59
D 大, 先說我沒看你貼的連結, 小弟大致知道 /cache 分區的用途. 重點是, 就我所知是它與絕大部份 app 在平時運作幾乎無關
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2018-08-23T08:47
https://i.imgur.com/TwxU8yv.png https://i.imgur.com/70OryH8.png 至少在我的手機上, 最近被動到的檔案幾乎都是 magisk 相關. 不懂 /cache 分區跟一般 app 平時運行的順暢與否的關係. 感謝解惑
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2018-08-28T01:36
https://i.imgur.com/TwxU8yv.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/70OryH8.png
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2018-09-01T18:24
這就要說....../app也是一個分區,你平常用/app嘛,但是跑app要一些拉基給他加油加水,要不他車子跑不動嘛
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2018-09-06T11:12
圖一為按照時間排序, /cache 的檔案列表, 下面最新
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-09-11T04:00
圖二是六分鐘的即時存取監控
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2018-09-15T20:48
說好的 /cache 分區呢? /app 分區? 可能我的系統舊(mm) 沒有 /app 分區
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2018-09-20T13:36
我想你問的是app不要cache也可以跑不相關是麼?app時常產生垃圾來幫助它跑,但是cache的容量和ram一樣是固定的,app不會一直呼叫垃圾來跑,是他會自己產生垃圾來幫助自己潤滑,所以不常呼叫是很正常的,拉基殺掉app還是不影響,只是你要重新跑自己想要的拉基出來很麻煩,很難管,有些拉基是屬於附屬的,更難管,所以我們最好的方法就是把app的其他功能拔掉,權限拔掉,讓他剩下自己要的且不會黑屏,限制拉基是屬於有用的
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2018-09-25T06:24
我要說的是 (至少在我的手機上), 除了 magisk 在那邊寫 log 之外, 大多數時候 /cache 分區根本沒人去讀或寫, 因此不懂 /cache 分區與 app 的日常運作順暢與否之間的關係
George avatar
By George
at 2018-09-29T23:12
讀圖案的看照片的舉例,他跑一次會產生拉基,這拉基是讓你跑看照片app更順,但是這個拉基是一旦太多,其他app的拉基就沒辦法產生,每個app都要拉基,沒地方產生拉基,那就很頓,但還是可以跑app,你每殺掉一次看照片app的拉基,他就會重新變慢,然後慢慢產生拉基加快app速度這樣,我們不喜歡就是這樣,我要的功能的拉基和不想要的拉基很難管,那我只能砍掉app功能或是砍掉app來管,這沒辦法的事
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2018-10-04T16:01
先說結論是同意的, 我自己也是會去關掉不想讓 app用的權限, 擋掉 intent, 甚至停用特定 activity.但還是認真求解 /cache 分區
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2018-10-09T08:49
筆誤. activity (x) receiver (o)
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2018-10-14T01:37
未答先猜原 po 說的是 dalvik/art cache 以及 app自行產生的 cache (如 browser cache). 就我所知, 至少在我的手機上, 那些都不是放在 /cache 分區
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2018-10-18T18:25
除了google以外,我有時候也會問wikihttps://goo.gl/iRgcYd
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2018-10-23T11:13
Cache != /cache 分區
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-10-28T04:01
D 大貼的圖是 /cache 分區
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2018-11-01T20:49
D, I honestly think Chinese isn't the best tool to resolve the communication gap here. The thread is like 雞同鴨講. The thing that confuses me is not "cache", but the partition /cache.To the best of my knowledge, /cache partitionhas nothing to do with how smooth apps run, once booted.
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2018-11-06T13:37
I don't know if you realise, the screen cap you posted in OP are your partitions, the labelcache in it is your /cache partition
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2018-11-11T06:25
Neither dalvik/art cache, nor app generated cache (e.g. browser cache) resides in /cache partition. Hence, to the best of my knowledge, /cache partition does not play a part in apps' daily operation in run time, once booted
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2018-11-15T23:14
As to your conclusion, I am with you. I am allfor strict monitoring and control apps' permissions and functionality
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2018-11-20T16:02
嗯......其實我之前有過回答類似這個,好像以前有人問我什麼/system分區和/data分區,我記得好像也是不能讓他滿意。在cpu呼叫/data後,所產生更快速幫助/app運行的,而產生拉基在/cache分區,有些手機的"正在執行的app"顯示ram,另一個選項的背景的app顯示cache。而/cache很小,他在cpu裡面,所以對我們而言ram太好掌控了,cache反而不好管,他的檔案名稱很多,可以的話我們其實都是直接刷掉/cache,多刷刷,只要app正常都不會黑屏,我是有時候會黑啦,因為我授權開開關關玩來玩去的......
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2018-11-25T08:50
問題是似乎不是這樣啊, 不是有貼給你開, 除了開機相關以及 magisk, 沒有人去碰 /cache partition 啊. 至少我的手機是這樣啦. Moto stock MM rom (AOSP-ish), rooted with magisk.
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2018-11-30T01:38
Emphasis "cache" is not "/cache" partition
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2018-12-04T18:26
筆誤. 貼給你開 (x) 貼給你看 (o)
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2018-12-09T11:14
等等, /cache 在 cpu 裏? (黑人問號) I think it's best if we stop here. :-)
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2018-12-14T04:02
Dalvik/art cache != app generated cache != /cache partition != cpu cache
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2018-12-18T20:50
是相等的吧?
James avatar
By James
at 2018-12-23T13:38
https://goo.gl/553nkK
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2018-12-28T06:27
可以wiki一下啊,這三者是相等的
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2019-01-01T23:15
有點難解釋,你能直接看我貼第一篇連結麼
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2019-01-06T16:03
OK, whatever you say. I am done here.
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2019-01-11T08:51
I was being polite, I KNOW what /cache partition is. Really, we haven't touch the level of detail that would make me revisit the page
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2019-01-16T01:39
你認為我講不一樣的東西啊,我想說我換另一個解釋的說,是同一個東西......xddd
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-01-20T18:27
Rephrase. I KNOW the 4 types of cache mentioned in this thread to decent level of detail. No, they are not the same. Most importantly, thepartition /cache isn't what you think it is.
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-01-25T11:15
I would blame it on the bad name. Nevertheless, it would really help if you would study thesubject a bit more before we continue the conversation
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-01-30T04:03
Just for the sake of it, I read your 1st linkregarding clearing the cache dir. It's an appspecific folder resides in app's data filder,which is not under /cache partition
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2019-02-03T20:52
https://i.imgur.com/noc1Wao.png Take the imgurclient I use for example, it's in /data/data/com.imgur.mobile
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-02-08T13:40
https://i.imgur.com/NPbCN5S.png And guess which partition it resides on? No, not /cache, it's on /data.
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2019-02-13T06:28
https://i.imgur.com/NxaYJUz.png Just found outthe command 'stat' in termux doesn't work properly for querying mount-point/filesystem
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-02-17T23:16
I had to use the applet 'df' in a custom version of busybox (via magisk) to get it properly.You may not be able to reproduce this result.It's on /data, just take my words for it,
John avatar
By John
at 2019-02-22T16:04
對啊,在/data裡面啊
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-02-27T08:52
這樣解除安裝的時候,一併刪除/cache啊
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2019-03-04T01:40
對啊/cache在指定app裡面啊
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2019-03-08T18:28
不不不,我所說的/cache就是在/data裡面
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2019-03-13T11:16
欸......然後咧?/cache在/data裡面會怎樣麼@@
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2019-03-18T04:05
其實cache有分內部和外部,你可以在rom裡面有些舊手機在sd卡上,都可以看到,但是這個外部/cache是不限制容量的,也就是說,內部的/data/data/abcdefg/cache才會塞到
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2019-03-22T20:53
喔你是問路徑?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-03-27T13:41
我們安裝在/data/app裡面的app,他會在/data/data產生app名稱的路徑,然後有/files和/cache,平常都是/files在跑然後拉基幫忙,這樣......ok嗎==
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-04-01T06:29
The dir /cache, is a top level dir, i.e. in root. AFAIK, it is a partition of its own. App cache dirs resides in app specific dirs, e.g. /data/data/some.app.com/cache. One could referthe latter as "app cache dir", or as simply as"cache dir" in relevant content. However, inmy professional career, never had I seen anyone prefix the latter with slash, i.e. "/cache",that's THE /cache partition. Please do your home work.
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2019-04-05T23:17
Correction: content (x) content (o)
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-04-10T16:05
content (x) context (o)
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2019-04-15T08:53
Tech geeks (pro or not), we try to be as specific as we can. Sure, geeks are also human andcan be lazy to say/type mouthful words, but never prefix a non-top-level dir with slash
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2019-04-20T01:41
Don't feel the same? Try do it in any decent tech community, and see how they react.
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-04-24T18:30
如果要說/data底下的cache不會是打「底下的/cache」啦...
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-04-29T11:18
簡單來說就是 因為/cache是真有其物 所以原PO的「讓我們往下看到/cache」這樣誤會大了
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2019-05-04T04:06
一般在說unix的路徑時 用/data/cache等一次說完 不會像原PO這麼說 一次說完比較不會產生不必要的誤會XD不過這邊不適合這樣說 因為實際上cache路徑會是「/data/data/程式名稱/cache」或是其它地方 名稱有夠長不然就換個說法 「app在/data下 而app會產生cache」這樣應該就可以明確表達原PO的意思又不會誤會xD
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2019-05-08T20:54
這......是喔......
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-05-13T13:42
@@/system啦/data啦/cache都只是省略要不要打一長串......

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