想請問大家對於GTX 1060 6GB的看法 - 3C

By Sandy
at 2016-10-09T20:31

Table of Contents

※ 引述《jademesses (傑德‧梅瑟)》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《norgthas (norgthas)》之銘言：
: : 如題,
: : 目前使用的是MSI GTX 1060 6GB GAMING X
: : 我看了些版上的消息如明年的Pascal 2.0, 還有教主將Pascal架構戲稱為Passcard
: : 總覺得當初沒挑1080或1070真是太傻了, 而且越看越覺得Passcard這個戲稱越不像戲稱了
: 你也太容易受別人影響，都來逛PTT了應該要學著判斷資訊的正確性才對
: 很多人喊PASCAL是PASSCARD只是跟著OBOV跟風喊的
: 事實上顯卡汰換速度本來就是這麼快
: 上代馬克斯威爾戰這麼久的情況才是少見，那也是因為AMD太弱完全不能打
:
4說
passcard也不是我發明der QQ

我覺得有幾點可以觀察一下

1.老黃想衝AI
所以gamework力道小惹
今年下半年綁N作很少
很明顯老黃把人力調去衝AI
驅動支援變弱惹

DX12等次代API這部分就更複雜惹
其實大家各懷鬼胎
我認為關鍵是遊戲商的功力
當然像doom vulkan那種如果越來越多
那就毫無意外passcard惹QQ

2.顯卡汰換速度
以前每年製程都往前半節點
所以效能都會噴一次
複雜度也不高
即使架構更新軟體商也還能配合

只是近來這件事已經變惹
實際上amd的GCN其中一點就是要改善驅動難寫的問題
比起來老黃寫驅動的人力夠多所以以前還玩得下去
但是只要老黃架構換惹心態變惹
就真的passcard惹
想想780ti八

基本上
除非新世代游戲機想要激進的架構
不然在可見的未來 GCN都不可能大改
所以驅動更新舊GCN卡也受惠

簡單來講
passcard到底會不會被pass
關鍵是老黃的意圖
老黃要賺你的錢拐你換新卡
那就是pass
老黃不屑你的小錢想衝AI
那也是pass

阿這
那到底怎樣才不會被pass
我猜喇
如果老黃哪天大喊不要扶他
那就不能pass惹

大概是這樣
認同請分享

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All Comments

By Xanthe
at 2016-10-14T04:42

教主開示

By Jake
at 2016-10-16T11:47

教主早安

By Iris
at 2016-10-20T16:44

教主!!

By David
at 2016-10-23T03:29

教主！！！

By Daph Bay
at 2016-10-27T19:58

教主貴安

By Daph Bay
at 2016-10-29T06:32

教主聖旨

By Hedwig
at 2016-10-30T02:05

小弟跪安

By Poppy
at 2016-11-03T14:23

幹 RX490什麼時候要出啦

By Olga
at 2016-11-03T17:17

教主開示

By Daph Bay
at 2016-11-08T04:06

不要扶他！

By Andy
at 2016-11-11T22:34

教主開示了~

By Linda
at 2016-11-12T04:45

J3小結論拉XDDDDD

By Lydia
at 2016-11-15T03:56

其實照教主的結論好像只要N卡幾乎會Pass QQ

By Hazel
at 2016-11-17T23:30

滅修干魔

By Freda
at 2016-11-19T19:30

這結論只能推惹

By Heather
at 2016-11-20T20:13

看沒有沒要賣二手,A卡二手價都很難看

By Rebecca
at 2016-11-22T05:40

顯卡這種新卡一出就崩盤的東西還整天那邊考慮二手價

By Lucy
at 2016-11-22T09:01

教主開示

By Agnes
at 2016-11-27T08:17

結論XDDDDDD

By Brianna
at 2016-12-01T05:26

母豬卡?

By Adele
at 2016-12-05T07:32

教主好

By Tracy
at 2016-12-07T12:58

認同請分享

By Elma
at 2016-12-11T02:33

認同請分享!!

By Eden
at 2016-12-12T20:40

教主開示！

By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-12-16T06:24

快來阿聽教主開示!!!!!!!!

By Kama
at 2016-12-21T00:38

不要扶他

By Eartha
at 2016-12-24T05:20

希望amd顯卡下一波送好一點xd不要bf1升級...

By Hardy
at 2016-12-27T21:24

教主開示醍醐灌頂

By Todd Johnson
at 2016-12-29T22:55

唯一真理！

By Belly
at 2016-12-31T03:52

教主！

By Hamiltion
at 2017-01-01T05:35

教主開示！！

By Charlie
at 2017-01-03T02:24

教主！

By Carolina Franco
at 2017-01-05T22:13

教主今日有佈道耶!!!

By Rosalind
at 2017-01-06T09:25

教主回台灣了嗎？

By Queena
at 2017-01-10T14:58

教主開示！！！

By Isabella
at 2017-01-10T16:06

好吧就用這塊1060 6GB坐等Volta, 除非Pascal超猛超
強超凶悍(?)
更正 Pascal 2.0

By Quintina
at 2017-01-11T01:18

教主豪

By Rosalind
at 2017-01-14T12:06

今年兩家都像過渡QQ
於是我買ler 470 ob'_'ov

By Madame
at 2017-01-16T18:41

不要扶他哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

By Zenobia
at 2017-01-19T10:39

Polaris我倒覺得恐怕會用很久...GF更新製程的速度

By Oliver
at 2017-01-22T15:05

GCN要改也是小改而已
當然不排除GF14nm摸熟了時脈可以更進一步

By Heather
at 2017-01-23T07:33

絕對★絕望★母豬

By Edwina
at 2017-01-27T17:50

三朝身寸

By Ina
at 2017-01-31T21:45

彥州教主開示惹!!!

By Cara
at 2017-02-02T04:48

靠北所以結論是伏打不要出帕斯卡就不是PASSCARD了

By Jacob
at 2017-02-03T01:30

教主難得回文

By Quanna
at 2017-02-05T06:15

教主開示前來朝聖

By Gary
at 2017-02-09T06:32

除非AMD放棄GCN 不然驅動換版就是新舊卡一起進步

By Kyle
at 2017-02-13T12:00

我現在才發現絕對絕望母豬

By Iris
at 2017-02-14T16:01

教主開示

By Edwina
at 2017-02-15T03:51

手滑推

By Quanna
at 2017-02-16T05:34

認同請分享 XDDDDDDDDDDDD

By William
at 2017-02-16T15:46

N粉表示: 幹 obov是要怎樣

By Faithe
at 2017-02-17T14:51

不要扶他！！！

By Rae
at 2017-02-22T07:37

只能推惹

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2017-02-23T10:01

身寸惹

By Aaliyah
at 2017-02-24T08:52

老黃的財富進美國四百大富豪惹

By Mia
at 2017-02-28T09:29

推了教主

By Emily
at 2017-03-05T05:30

錢多講話就有力喇

By Jacob
at 2017-03-06T23:24

教主！！

By Eden
at 2017-03-10T20:04

教主

By Doris
at 2017-03-12T07:44

教主講話了大家有聽懂了嗎

By Delia
at 2017-03-13T15:28

出現啦！

By George
at 2017-03-16T07:36

Polaris沒意外會用很久啦...大概跟fury與r9的關係一
樣

By Mary
at 2017-03-18T22:44

感謝教主

By Hazel
at 2017-03-22T07:16

Vega卡出來應該也不是套上RX前綴了

By Linda
at 2017-03-27T04:58

教主講話就算看不懂也要裝懂

By Damian
at 2017-03-27T13:48

Vega當然是掛Fury名稱

By Hedda
at 2017-04-01T08:45

Fury EX

By Tom
at 2017-04-02T05:42

ob’_’ov

By Skylar Davis
at 2017-04-04T07:48

朝聖跪拜

By Kama
at 2017-04-04T21:18

教主推

By Rachel
at 2017-04-08T16:24

這篇會爆推

By Noah
at 2017-04-10T16:17

NV目前看來也在Tick-Tock策略甚至是PAO步調
從Kepler架構開始之後停在同一製程的時間會拉長

By Kyle
at 2017-04-10T18:24

教主

By Franklin
at 2017-04-12T11:44

幫QQ

By Caitlin
at 2017-04-14T05:06

教主開示啦~~~~~~~~

By Thomas
at 2017-04-15T13:11

幫QQ

By Anthony
at 2017-04-16T07:43

我覺得如果20系列仍是Pascal架構的微調版那買目前

By Rebecca
at 2017-04-20T04:15

的10系列仍然是不會太快放生的

By Puput
at 2017-04-20T14:54

教主開釋啦！

By Eden
at 2017-04-23T15:51

VEGA應該還是會有一張RX 490吧

By Tracy
at 2017-04-24T06:16

搞不好直接上5系列了

By Charlotte
at 2017-04-25T15:50

PASSSSS

By Daph Bay
at 2017-04-29T10:32

如果老黃哪天大喊不要扶他 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

By Kama
at 2017-05-03T04:12

VEGA有無 = 決定是否PASSCARD(O)
VOLTA

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-05-05T09:39

obov再次幫老東家AMD催票啦最後兩個月重返農藥!!!

By Elizabeth
at 2017-05-09T16:14

教主不要扶他!!

By Sarah
at 2017-05-13T09:02

不要扶他 XDDDD

By Olivia
at 2017-05-17T22:50

20XX應該Pascal 但是誰跟你說驅動就不會放生 XD

By Emma
at 2017-05-20T21:38

不管怎樣有笑我就推了

By Dinah
at 2017-05-22T17:45

這我還是第一次在這看到那麼多推

By Regina
at 2017-05-27T00:21

看到作者以為看錯惹, 老黃滿腦都在AI啦~~

By Anthony
at 2017-05-28T00:17

passssssssssssss

By Ina
at 2017-05-28T14:50

750/750Ti的第一代Maxwell的GM107 到了900系列的

By Thomas
at 2017-05-31T16:33

教主

By Andrew
at 2017-06-01T01:44

第二代Maxwell GM2XX系列 GM107還是有優化沒放生

By Dinah
at 2017-06-05T05:23

不要扶他然後選奶大的....(筆記

By Odelette
at 2017-06-06T18:13

扶他那裡

By Agnes
at 2017-06-10T04:42

扶他和奶大可以並存

By Sarah
at 2017-06-14T14:27

教主開示！

By Heather
at 2017-06-18T20:37

有笑有推

By Mia
at 2017-06-20T23:55

路過推

By David
at 2017-06-21T18:19

XD 為啥是不要扶他

By Annie
at 2017-06-25T23:55

ob'_'ov.ob"_"ov.ob'_'ov.ob"_"ov.ob'_'ov.ob"_"ov.

By Elvira
at 2017-06-29T04:51

9系列表示:

By Ethan
at 2017-07-01T15:38

先推教主

By Belly
at 2017-07-05T03:08

教主難得回整篇文，簽到ㄧ下

By Agnes
at 2017-07-06T02:09

百推內！！！！

By Vanessa
at 2017-07-08T12:16

幫QQ

By Jack
at 2017-07-09T13:31

教主開示喇!!

By Agatha
at 2017-07-14T12:37

重點：不要扶他！

By Ethan
at 2017-07-16T22:06

教主我在這

By Carol
at 2017-07-17T11:22

By Carolina Franco
at 2017-07-19T21:22

教主文一定要推，也就是說不管怎樣一定 pass 了？

By Delia
at 2017-07-23T19:52

ob'_'ov

By Leila
at 2017-07-26T08:00

不要扶他！

By Carol
at 2017-07-27T09:20

百推內朝聖

By Oscar
at 2017-07-30T03:49

爆惹

By Anthony
at 2017-08-01T09:17

靠北樓上==

By Quanna
at 2017-08-02T18:13

娘子快來跪著看教主。

By Steve
at 2017-08-07T07:37

ob'_'ov

By Carol
at 2017-08-11T04:09

教主！！！！！！！

By Valerie
at 2017-08-13T12:13

教主，小的想儒教

By Agnes
at 2017-08-16T01:15

ob'_'ov

By Damian
at 2017-08-16T04:20

路過好熱鬧推~

By Carol
at 2017-08-18T00:08

不要扶他!!

By Harry
at 2017-08-22T16:57

看不懂~還是推惹~教主我在這S ~ob'_'ov~ob'_'ov~

By Damian
at 2017-08-23T22:01

母☆母☆ 夜裡哭哭
ob'_'ov

By Dinah
at 2017-08-24T18:30

教主跪安

By Xanthe
at 2017-08-29T03:20

ob'_'ov

By Xanthe
at 2017-08-29T06:32

射惹

By Sierra Rose
at 2017-09-01T14:36

教主

By Doris
at 2017-09-01T23:00

ob'_'ov

By Rae
at 2017-09-02T12:00

ob'_'ov

By Linda
at 2017-09-06T12:11

恭迎教主

By Doris
at 2017-09-07T01:22

ob'_'ov

By Dinah
at 2017-09-10T00:15

朝聖

By James
at 2017-09-13T11:03

教主請賜予護衛孟家軒我神聖無比的母豬力量ob'_'ov

By Hedwig
at 2017-09-14T00:17

ob'_'ov

By Damian
at 2017-09-15T01:34

朝聖推

By Queena
at 2017-09-19T20:49

教主安安

By Margaret
at 2017-09-22T09:55

教主豪

By Kama
at 2017-09-24T05:05

教主

By Ethan
at 2017-09-24T18:56

教主

By Anonymous
at 2017-09-25T14:08

絕對★絕望★母豬

By Oscar
at 2017-09-26T22:59

教主早安啊

By Olive
at 2017-10-01T02:53

教主

By Joe
at 2017-10-01T21:34

教主開釋如沐春風

By Kumar
at 2017-10-03T03:04

教主安安看來真的是passcard惹QQ

By Rebecca
at 2017-10-05T00:49

教主開示，我的1070看來難保。

By Yuri
at 2017-10-07T00:46

認同所以我要分享惹

By George
at 2017-10-08T16:41

ob'_'ov

By Rebecca
at 2017-10-11T02:51

ob'_'ov

By Steve
at 2017-10-14T02:14

朝聖教主推

By Lydia
at 2017-10-18T03:45

gameworks本來就不是長久之計.
那本身效率太差，又沒運用Async優化。
後來AMD直接把tressfx/purehair之類開源

By Anthony
at 2017-10-19T05:23

效率還更好。

By Catherine
at 2017-10-20T10:55

低階API不就是把工作丟給遊戲商嗎(X

By Blanche
at 2017-10-25T10:00

恭迎教主

By Hardy
at 2017-10-28T14:30

絕對。絕望。母豬。射惹

By Lucy
at 2017-11-02T07:01

所以教主扶他了嗎?

By Harry
at 2017-11-06T04:48

ob'_'ov

By Kristin
at 2017-11-10T15:04

不能說gamework不是長久之計 gaming這塊也蠻複雜的

By Lydia
at 2017-11-13T23:58

樓上教主 ob'_'ov

By Dorothy
at 2017-11-16T18:14

3D引擎跟gpu之間的合作是一回事但是game的賣點
不是只看3d好壞

By Joseph
at 2017-11-20T09:33

NVIDIA脈信仰

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2017-11-24T21:17

像古墓奇兵就在哭說dx12難搞難作
他的意思很簡單就是我要gamework 你悶幫我做
古墓奇兵最重要的一點就是蘿拉的奶子

By Lucy
at 2017-11-27T14:02

奶子跟3D有關但是首先他必須要是奶子

By Rosalind
at 2017-12-01T18:52

尖奶讚讚

By Quintina
at 2017-12-05T12:58

教主箴言: 買乃大的!

By Poppy
at 2017-12-08T17:41

奶子跟信仰一樣是基本盤的保證QQ

By Irma
at 2017-12-11T10:20

教主在我上面！

By Edwina
at 2017-12-11T16:18

哈哈有笑有推

By Zora
at 2017-12-13T16:52

780ti怎麼惹嗎

By Rachel
at 2017-12-17T22:35

http://imgur.com/a/JzbHz
我追隨OBOV

By Hamiltion
at 2017-12-20T14:58

是說先知怎麼沒跳下來戰這個www

By Ingrid
at 2017-12-24T05:35

必推

By Frederic
at 2017-12-26T10:46

奶子才是真理

By Wallis
at 2017-12-28T08:50

乃子！

By Mia
at 2017-12-28T22:17

教主開示:首先他必須要是奶子

By Megan
at 2018-01-01T01:39

先知都說了970 non oc>480才是真理沒必要戰這篇

By Tracy
at 2018-01-03T10:38

不要Volta

By Aaliyah
at 2018-01-07T06:49

教主

By Damian
at 2018-01-08T17:10

教主

By Irma
at 2018-01-12T07:55

教主的推文在工三小XD

By Faithe
at 2018-01-16T09:14

教主

By Olive
at 2018-01-18T17:52

教主

By Emily
at 2018-01-21T11:44

教主英明。萬事千秋

By Daniel
at 2018-01-22T16:46

教主分析的很透徹，只能推了

By Genevieve
at 2018-01-25T23:33

教主早安

By Jake
at 2018-01-27T21:42

推，太好笑了~~有梗~~

By Anonymous
at 2018-01-28T06:03

XDDD

By George
at 2018-01-31T04:59

推教主不要扶他！

By Hedwig
at 2018-02-01T07:15

教主開示如五雷灌頂

By Olga
at 2018-02-06T01:11

說實話,FM是不是你開發的?

By Jessica
at 2018-02-08T13:04

分享三小先拜再說教主千秋萬世 ob'_'ov

By Gilbert
at 2018-02-12T16:18

認同請分享

By Michael
at 2018-02-14T09:36

教主

By Adele
at 2018-02-14T14:37

朝聖推

By Ula
at 2018-02-16T10:52

教主已開示奶子！奶子！奶子

By Odelette
at 2018-02-17T04:51

古墓用pure hair(tressfx3.0)不是hair work.
那效能差異是連低效能家機都開on

By Oscar
at 2018-02-19T12:26

那種自己付錢幫廠商做本來就不能持續。

By Vanessa
at 2018-02-19T20:08

是推廣期燒錢希望加速開發者熟悉速度，
之後就是靠開發者自己花錢做，只提供工具

By Aaliyah
at 2018-02-23T18:35

然後人&錢挪去發展推廣更新的技術。

By Erin
at 2018-02-26T05:43

從以前就一直如此，像是早年tesselation
現在也不用推廣了，因為人人都能做。

By Frederic
at 2018-02-27T19:40

不管用的是哪個方案或是自研。硬體都能得益

By Charlotte
at 2018-02-28T19:56

obov認證passcard 而且連大師都換460了...

By Elizabeth
at 2018-03-01T10:50

新技術是軟體廠商不知道如何使用新硬體
所以硬體廠商才需要燒錢推廣，
利用新技術讓新架構得到商業銷售優勢。

By Candice
at 2018-03-05T19:36

當技術已經不夠新，各種更好甚至開源
middleware出來時，硬體廠商就轉移陣地。

By Ophelia
at 2018-03-10T13:28

不要扶她不就代表閹割版嗎XDDDD

By Heather
at 2018-03-10T18:38

nv跟amd股價差了10倍

By Wallis
at 2018-03-11T01:17

推推

By Jack
at 2018-03-15T11:34

現在NV在遊戲驅動有更重要的要趕進度

By Linda
at 2018-03-19T18:21

他在DX12/Vulkan驅動實作被拋在後面

By Hardy
at 2018-03-20T23:25

以前openGL是NV驅動值5k,現在vulkan
可能是負5k...硬體有Async能力是閒置不用
因為驅動還不支援，綁一隻手跟AMD打

By Doris
at 2018-03-21T12:59

ob'_'ov

By Delia
at 2018-03-26T03:59

這恐怕比他喵的gamework更緊急。

By Frederica
at 2018-03-26T12:27

驅動沒搞定則連pass2甚至volta也得綁一隻手

By Oscar
at 2018-03-29T12:30

Pascal好像硬體上就沒辦法不是？

By Elvira
at 2018-04-01T22:08

970再戰2年啦

By Madame
at 2018-04-05T23:03

Push

By Frederica
at 2018-04-08T23:46

朝聖

By Carolina Franco
at 2018-04-12T06:30

教主英明神武一統江湖

By Donna
at 2018-04-12T19:20

pascal有Async只是架構導致做法不同，
DX12能開，但Vulkan因為驅動問題不能開
idsoft的人在網站說的，還在等nv寫...

By Carol
at 2018-04-17T07:29

nV在車聯網還有意法半導體這對手呀

By Audriana
at 2018-04-21T00:21

不過最佩服nV的還是他們在類神經網路實作硬體上走的

By Oscar
at 2018-04-21T14:11

最遠，未來就等演算法追上來了

By Quintina
at 2018-04-22T05:01

老黃是誰？...

By Hedwig
at 2018-04-24T11:12

nv執行長黃仁勳

By Frederic
at 2018-04-26T05:56

商業週刊1507(最近幾期)矽谷悍將.nVIDIA_CEO_黃仁勳

By Enid
at 2018-05-01T03:45

話說老黃也在AMD工作過2年...obov哪時自己做顯卡?

By Lucy
at 2018-05-01T17:02

教主開示！！！

By Adele
at 2018-05-02T13:32

矽谷悍將那有提到其實發展AI是無心插柳
NV發展GPGPU,結果發現學者都拿去研究AI
發現有商機，就順勢加重AI方面的投資力道

By Barb Cronin
at 2018-05-06T19:29

後續才有AI硬體優化(不需要高精度運算)

By Isla
at 2018-05-11T06:24

AMD目前對於AI沒有硬體低精度優勢。
它主要還是針對遊戲compute shader運用

By Irma
at 2018-05-14T18:06

北極星只優化到低精度時降低暫存器佔用量

By Ophelia
at 2018-05-17T09:52

教主開示奶子才是重點奶子是信仰!!!

By Dinah
at 2018-05-20T07:31

你居然不知道老黃?!! 核物理之父兩彈一星黃仁勳是也

By Dinah
at 2018-05-22T19:58

有人嗆教主啦? 笑死

By Candice
at 2018-05-23T18:52

By Isla
at 2018-05-27T10:44

怎摸沒說到底扶他哪裡? 我好急啊

By William
at 2018-06-01T01:51

教主！！！

By Sarah
at 2018-06-05T01:04

教主安安

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-06-09T22:18

教主開示喇！！！

By Dora
at 2018-06-14T11:34

朝聖

By Lily
at 2018-06-17T20:52

教主開示啦

By Hazel
at 2018-06-20T14:24

娘子跟我出來看教主

By Faithe
at 2018-06-22T09:40

推

By Vanessa
at 2018-06-26T15:09

教主大駕光臨！

By Emma
at 2018-06-28T19:45

教主開示：不要扶他選奶大的

By George
at 2018-07-02T12:55

所有的卡都是passcard 一直換新的才是真的選我選我

By Daniel
at 2018-07-05T11:48

點分享

By Andy
at 2018-07-07T05:40

教主開市

By Dorothy
at 2018-07-09T20:36

這什麼結論啦w

By Kyle
at 2018-07-10T16:09

看來470可以戰個3年5年沒問題了

By Hedda
at 2018-07-14T20:54

N卡年年都passcard啊，因為隔年一定會有更好更強的
卡出來

By Kelly
at 2018-07-15T04:37

朝聖

想請問大家對於GTX 1060 6GB的看法 - 3C

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