手機效能和選購手機建議 (全篇) - 手機討論

By William
at 2013-10-23T15:28
at 2013-10-23T15:28
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(前言:已經知道處理器差別的人,就不要入場來批了,寫給新手看的
覺得術語太多的人,請直接看結論)
今年2013手機處理器,知名的就下列幾家
一、高通 (S4 pro、S600、S800)
二、三星 (Exynos 4412、5410/5420)
三、蘋果 (A7)
四、Intel (Intel Clover Trail+、Bay Trail-T)
五、others(例如mtk、nVidia...etc,不對?intel好像才是others吧?)
整個消費性電子,尤其是手機的Soc,除了Apple和intel這沒出息的傢伙之外
其餘的全部都有問題。因為根本完全不跟消費者說實話
(啥?intel這獅子座的外星公司沒出息?晚點再論述)
一、先說高通好了
S800系列(GPU Adreno330),在Tjmax近80度時,會瘋狂降頻
手機本體的體積很小,散熱能力有限的情況下
在我測試的過的手機裡,沒一支可以全速(2.2xGhz)維持超過二十秒鐘
接下來的慘狀,有些人已經體會過了,就是速度最高剩1026mhz,或是持續低於1Ghz在跑。
S600好多了,全速(1.9Ghz)幾乎可以撐過幾分鐘,接下來維持1.566Ghz再來變1.13Ghz。
S4 pro(1.5Ghz)呢?更好,全速可以撐最久,接下來維持在1.33ghz。
在高通特有的aSMP架構下
S4 Pro、S600、S800,用這三顆處理器的手機,在平常使用上,根本沒差
唯一的差別是,S800在跑非常重度的遊戲時,會好很多。
所以,選購用這三顆處理器的用戶,真的只需要考慮品牌的調教。
目前調教最好的,個人覺得是HTC(別罵它了,都快倒了)
它就是有辦法用比別人慢的處理器,調教出最佳的使用效果
老實說,Butterfly和Butterfly S,我完全無法用感覺去判斷二隻流暢的差異度
二、三星更慘了
在octa特殊的big.LITTLE (我看是bug.LITTLE吧?)架構下
根本就只能用慘絕人寰來形容
最近S4和Note3有更新Heterogeneous Multi-Processing核心?
真的是HMP?或是抑只是把 Cluster Migration的調配,因應溫度再做些調動而已?
不過In-kernel switcher似乎還沒解決(datasheet是有,但是,不樂觀)
所以,在Tjmax於90度下,octa處理器,慘到爆
慘到在全速運行不到幾分鐘後,只剩最慢的4顆A7在跑
(註:最近的核心更新,有調動這方面,為了不讓遲頓的狀況產生,除非接近待機狀況
不然,還是會維持A15核心開啟在低時脈跑。缺點是耗電…)
三、蘋果A7(雙核)
這顆採用ARMv8指令集類Cortex-A57的處理器,非常的精良
應該說三星對蘋果特別照顧?或是?(我不認為三星良率會高到哪去,搞不好賠錢在做)
這顆處理器,反正也只有一家在做,我就簡短的說
ARMv8指令集,原本ARM是設計給伺服器使用,想當然爾,耗電一定很可怕
但是,蘋果很聰明,也很有良心
為了不讓處理器過熱而降頻,而且還可以運行在手機上面
蘋果很有良心的讓A7的在iPhone 5s上,只跑1.3Ghz,不然,它其實可以跑更高頻率
就跟當初3GS那顆一樣(原本跑800mhz,降為600mhz在跑)
至少不會有出現跟高通或是三星一樣狂降頻跑的情況 (啥?因為出廠就先降頻了啊)
不過,還是提醒大家,64bits的目前還真的只是口號
或許iPad Air上市了之後,64bits的程式才有一點點機會增加多一些
不然,使用上絕對毫無影嚮,更何況iPhone 5s只有1G的記憶體
(特別強調一下, iphone的行銷文特別喜歡用Geekbench來說,這套有支援ARMv8指令集,
所以,當然測試出來的數字特別好看。如果換成別的測試軟體,A7就破功了。
不用再戰這方面,反正,A7也不可能去跑Android啊,高通三星也不可能去跑ios)
四、Intel (Intel Clover Trail+、Bay Trail-T)
這家半導體巨人,目前大概是最老實的
之前國外有測試過,Intel雙核Clover Trail+ Z2580,是唯一一顆在CPU全速跑,不會降頻
Intel說它可以跑2Ghz,就老實的全速時,就是跑2Ghz,絕對不會降頻,而且溫度又低。
筆者的同事,剛好有機會測試到最新的四核Bay Trail-T z37x0 (2.4Ghz左右)
是某品牌(不要問,會害人失業)未上市的工程機
z37x0,依舊維持Intel對消費者的承諾,標多就少,就是跑多少,絕對不會沒事降頻給你看
如果各家照Intel的標準來看,其它各家時脈都要打折很大。
因為除了蘋果之外,高通、三星、NV的SOC,根本在全速都撐不了多久,就狂降頻。
這些廠商,就只標最高時脈,但是,卻不讓你知道最高時脈根本跑不久。
個人覺得很不老實。
但是,Intel面臨的問題,就是如何讓軟體廠商願意compiler x86版?
Binary Translation造成的效能損耗過高,絕對是個問題
不然,Intel在效能/功耗方面,已經領先ARM平台
目前看來,Intel還是沒出息,並沒有對這塊展開強大的動作。令人失望。
看完上面,個人提一些選購手機的概念給大家做參考。
Android平台:
老實跟各位說,在這平台上,你選S4 Pro、S600、S800的機種
只要記憶體是選2G的版本,在你使用上,幾乎毫無差別
當然,你在意那跑分幾秒很快的話,就有差別
但是,不管玩遊戲或是平常應用,幾乎感受不出差別(反正全速也跑不了幾秒)
只剩各家調教而已
這平台,絕對要選「2G記憶體」機種手機,但不用管SOC是哪顆了(使用感受,都一樣啦!)
應該著重在你要的是什麼?
照相?續航力?外觀?價格?
最重要是穩定度和妥善率。
不要只看SOC規格了,再次強調,使用感受都一樣啦!
Apple平台:
I don't care,就只能選一隻,不用多說了。
有些新增資料,晚點再上來補。
(拖稿很久,決定刪一些對三星不利的話,以免被告,言盡於此)
--
覺得術語太多的人,請直接看結論)
今年2013手機處理器,知名的就下列幾家
一、高通 (S4 pro、S600、S800)
二、三星 (Exynos 4412、5410/5420)
三、蘋果 (A7)
四、Intel (Intel Clover Trail+、Bay Trail-T)
五、others(例如mtk、nVidia...etc,不對?intel好像才是others吧?)
整個消費性電子,尤其是手機的Soc,除了Apple和intel這沒出息的傢伙之外
其餘的全部都有問題。因為根本完全不跟消費者說實話
(啥?intel這獅子座的外星公司沒出息?晚點再論述)
一、先說高通好了
S800系列(GPU Adreno330),在Tjmax近80度時,會瘋狂降頻
手機本體的體積很小,散熱能力有限的情況下
在我測試的過的手機裡,沒一支可以全速(2.2xGhz)維持超過二十秒鐘
接下來的慘狀,有些人已經體會過了,就是速度最高剩1026mhz,或是持續低於1Ghz在跑。
S600好多了,全速(1.9Ghz)幾乎可以撐過幾分鐘,接下來維持1.566Ghz再來變1.13Ghz。
S4 pro(1.5Ghz)呢?更好,全速可以撐最久,接下來維持在1.33ghz。
在高通特有的aSMP架構下
S4 Pro、S600、S800,用這三顆處理器的手機,在平常使用上,根本沒差
唯一的差別是,S800在跑非常重度的遊戲時,會好很多。
所以,選購用這三顆處理器的用戶,真的只需要考慮品牌的調教。
目前調教最好的,個人覺得是HTC(別罵它了,都快倒了)
它就是有辦法用比別人慢的處理器,調教出最佳的使用效果
老實說,Butterfly和Butterfly S,我完全無法用感覺去判斷二隻流暢的差異度
二、三星更慘了
在octa特殊的big.LITTLE (我看是bug.LITTLE吧?)架構下
根本就只能用慘絕人寰來形容
最近S4和Note3有更新Heterogeneous Multi-Processing核心?
真的是HMP?或是抑只是把 Cluster Migration的調配,因應溫度再做些調動而已?
不過In-kernel switcher似乎還沒解決(datasheet是有,但是,不樂觀)
所以,在Tjmax於90度下,octa處理器,慘到爆
慘到在全速運行不到幾分鐘後,只剩最慢的4顆A7在跑
(註:最近的核心更新,有調動這方面,為了不讓遲頓的狀況產生,除非接近待機狀況
不然,還是會維持A15核心開啟在低時脈跑。缺點是耗電…)
三、蘋果A7(雙核)
這顆採用ARMv8指令集類Cortex-A57的處理器,非常的精良
應該說三星對蘋果特別照顧?或是?(我不認為三星良率會高到哪去,搞不好賠錢在做)
這顆處理器,反正也只有一家在做,我就簡短的說
ARMv8指令集,原本ARM是設計給伺服器使用,想當然爾,耗電一定很可怕
但是,蘋果很聰明,也很有良心
為了不讓處理器過熱而降頻,而且還可以運行在手機上面
蘋果很有良心的讓A7的在iPhone 5s上,只跑1.3Ghz,不然,它其實可以跑更高頻率
就跟當初3GS那顆一樣(原本跑800mhz,降為600mhz在跑)
至少不會有出現跟高通或是三星一樣狂降頻跑的情況 (啥?因為出廠就先降頻了啊)
不過,還是提醒大家,64bits的目前還真的只是口號
或許iPad Air上市了之後,64bits的程式才有一點點機會增加多一些
不然,使用上絕對毫無影嚮,更何況iPhone 5s只有1G的記憶體
(特別強調一下, iphone的行銷文特別喜歡用Geekbench來說,這套有支援ARMv8指令集,
所以,當然測試出來的數字特別好看。如果換成別的測試軟體,A7就破功了。
不用再戰這方面,反正,A7也不可能去跑Android啊,高通三星也不可能去跑ios)
四、Intel (Intel Clover Trail+、Bay Trail-T)
這家半導體巨人,目前大概是最老實的
之前國外有測試過,Intel雙核Clover Trail+ Z2580,是唯一一顆在CPU全速跑,不會降頻
Intel說它可以跑2Ghz,就老實的全速時,就是跑2Ghz,絕對不會降頻,而且溫度又低。
筆者的同事,剛好有機會測試到最新的四核Bay Trail-T z37x0 (2.4Ghz左右)
是某品牌(不要問,會害人失業)未上市的工程機
z37x0,依舊維持Intel對消費者的承諾,標多就少,就是跑多少,絕對不會沒事降頻給你看
如果各家照Intel的標準來看,其它各家時脈都要打折很大。
因為除了蘋果之外,高通、三星、NV的SOC,根本在全速都撐不了多久,就狂降頻。
這些廠商,就只標最高時脈,但是,卻不讓你知道最高時脈根本跑不久。
個人覺得很不老實。
但是,Intel面臨的問題,就是如何讓軟體廠商願意compiler x86版?
Binary Translation造成的效能損耗過高,絕對是個問題
不然,Intel在效能/功耗方面,已經領先ARM平台
目前看來,Intel還是沒出息,並沒有對這塊展開強大的動作。令人失望。
看完上面,個人提一些選購手機的概念給大家做參考。
Android平台:
老實跟各位說,在這平台上,你選S4 Pro、S600、S800的機種
只要記憶體是選2G的版本,在你使用上,幾乎毫無差別
當然,你在意那跑分幾秒很快的話,就有差別
但是,不管玩遊戲或是平常應用,幾乎感受不出差別(反正全速也跑不了幾秒)
只剩各家調教而已
這平台,絕對要選「2G記憶體」機種手機,但不用管SOC是哪顆了(使用感受,都一樣啦!)
應該著重在你要的是什麼?
照相?續航力?外觀?價格?
最重要是穩定度和妥善率。
不要只看SOC規格了,再次強調,使用感受都一樣啦!
Apple平台:
I don't care,就只能選一隻,不用多說了。
有些新增資料,晚點再上來補。
(拖稿很久,決定刪一些對三星不利的話,以免被告,言盡於此)
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