有關AMD處理器 - 遊戲機

Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2014-07-14T14:12

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借這篇的標題回點amd的東西
也許這會是我最後一次講AMD的八卦惹QQ 因為都閃人惹
先聲明我對股價沒任何預期 手頭上留著的價值幾千鎂amd股也沒打算賣


先談CPU/APU:

amd這批IBM幫的高層
這幾年最大的錯誤 就是花惹三百多萬鎂買sea-micro
兩年多來只拿到個verizon的大單
營收目標達成不到60%
當年併購時AMD跟sea-micro的協議就是 sea-micro的高層元老兩年內不准走
兩年時間一到
前sea-micro的ceo(後來變amd server部門的SVP) 就離職惹

很清楚的
從sea-micro的不如預期來看
amd當年認為micro server數年後會佔server20%市場
是看得到 吃不到

結果就是amd修正計畫回歸傳統server
到時候會出現8核zen-core
效能當然還是輸intel 輸多少就不清楚惹

整個amd在x86市場的現狀
還是一樣被hp等公司拿來跟intel講價的籌碼
amd也不清楚哪個方向才是對的
amd-cpu派認為強化cpu回歸傳統硬幹intel
ati-apu派認為HSA才是未來
arm(k12)的計畫到是變得很尷尬
因為micro-server/arm-server看起來很難成功
那k12出場變得要去攻高階平板市場
可惜平板市場已經整個轉向低階時代



再談gaming:

獨顯市佔這幾年nv:ati從5:5變成6.5:3.5
但是純論gaming 就還要把遊戲主機拿進來看
勝負論斷就變得很複雜

amd獨顯的新架構大概要到16/14nm第一波量產之後一年才會出現
也就是2016
所以這兩年nv:ati的比例大概還會維持原樣
另一方面 amd在軟體/mantle之類上的努力
這並不是一個錯誤的決定 但也不怎麼高明
軟體上要一舉改變跟對手的差距 很難
因為nv有amd數倍大的軟體人力資源
任何軟體上可以解決的差距 幾個月內nv都可以追上


遊戲機部分就是塞惹一些笑話惹

amd去年下半年可以說是靠ps4/xbox1起死回生
amd從sony微軟兩家公司也拿惹三百多M鎂的研發經費
amd這批高層很開心
大概一年多前也創造惹一個business unit 專做這塊"代研發"生意(同時還兼賣賭博機)
實際上:
1.遊戲機這部分大概2010/2011的時候就拍板惹 跟這批新高層可以說是無關
2.這批新高層根本不知道去哪找下一個潘仔付百M鎂等級的研發經費

結果這個BU可以說是八成以上在服務sony微軟
號稱成長很快
只是從頭到尾都只靠遊戲機在成長



另一個笑話就是
因為怕amd倒 遊戲機就要斷貨惹
結果微軟跑去找intel搞backup plan
sony沒錢 就沒有backup
於是sony變成全世界最怕amd倒掉的公司




基本上兩年內amd很難有什魔變化
頂多中國開放遊戲機 ps/xbox賣翻
然後amd營收上升 毛利爆降
股價大概一樣不好看八


是說換公司之後
馬上就拿惹一台mbp在做事
看到那顆i7
心情真的很複雜耶
QQ





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All Comments

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By Thomas
at 2014-07-15T08:19
頭推幫QQ
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By Mia
at 2014-07-19T03:22
obov最後終於射了
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By Charlotte
at 2014-07-20T09:56
射惹大去啃蘋果了嗎
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at 2014-07-22T23:46
幫射
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at 2014-07-26T08:44
幫身寸
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at 2014-07-28T17:57
幫身寸惹
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at 2014-08-01T17:02
obov大必推
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at 2014-08-06T12:00
以後看不到obov怎麼辦阿
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By Bennie
at 2014-08-07T06:08
QQ
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By Victoria
at 2014-08-09T20:41
唉,AMD自己不爭氣,能怎辦?CPU越做越爛也就算了,
連GPU也快被NV巴過去惹~~
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2014-08-10T07:46
我連自己的桌電龍二用完以後,考慮換新電腦時,也是
準備跳intel惹~~~筆電更比桌電先跳惹~~一整個AMD就GG
William avatar
By William
at 2014-08-11T17:39
前一陣子不是有礦卡,導致AMD顯卡缺貨嗎?
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2014-08-14T01:24
幾隻偏AMD的帳號轉貼PS4主機大賣新聞還不忘沾點AMD
高潮的跟甚麼一樣
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By Kyle
at 2014-08-17T03:37
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By Necoo
at 2014-08-19T08:16
裝了龍二哥後,AMD新的CPU list只看APU惹
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By Charlie
at 2014-08-23T23:49
QQ 看著我的965&7870myst漸漸心寒....
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at 2014-08-25T15:27
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By Ursula
at 2014-08-29T16:48
啥 不是賣香蕉去了(?
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By Poppy
at 2014-09-02T16:08
我還以為AMD在獨顯市場越來越吃香,原來不是啊@@
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By Emma
at 2014-09-05T20:26
有射有推
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By Faithe
at 2014-09-09T15:06
看來obov去gg救台灣了
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By Madame
at 2014-09-10T12:17
日行一善路過幫噓爛貨AMD~ GG~
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By Isabella
at 2014-09-11T07:06
obov QQ
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By Eden
at 2014-09-12T03:32
還在礦卡阿 去年年底就一堆人拋了 只是有傻子補上
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By Jacky
at 2014-09-16T03:35
淚推
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By Rosalind
at 2014-09-19T03:59
我從k5時代就支持amd,最後我也受不了了...
真懷念過去amd的榮光時期啊!!!
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By Edward Lewis
at 2014-09-22T20:55
這篇淚推了啦
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By Freda
at 2014-09-26T15:15
沒想到獨顯市佔率慘到這種程度,晚輩還以為N:A=6:4
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By Audriana
at 2014-09-29T15:55
或是 5.5:4.5 勒
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By Bethany
at 2014-10-04T06:27
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2014-10-04T08:13
AMD都不AMD了 那以後還身寸★惹ㄦ還能身寸★惹ㄦ嗎?
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By Frederica
at 2014-10-07T07:15
以後一堆咩貼OBOV了拉 (′˙ω˙‵) 幹嘛上PTT身寸
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By Isabella
at 2014-10-09T06:36
QQ惹 你醬子走惹讓我連支持AMD的動力都沒惹QQ
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By Frederic
at 2014-10-10T04:24
以後只好怒買骨灰罈射惹
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By Candice
at 2014-10-13T08:14
射了!AMD哭哭!以後還有啥八卦能聽呢?
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2014-10-14T14:38
推八卦! 也恭喜obov跳槽成功
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By Frederica
at 2014-10-14T15:43
拜脫 這裡有NV軟體哥駐版哩 拖他的福我水桶兩次
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By Blanche
at 2014-10-17T15:00
推推
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By Olive
at 2014-10-21T08:22
不AMD 射不了惹
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at 2014-10-21T17:49
obov不要走~~~QQ
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By Ophelia
at 2014-10-23T11:53
QQ 很複雜 可是好像不錯用 這樣的心情嗎?
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By Lauren
at 2014-10-25T14:59
obov吃水果去了,以後沒A社內幕可以聽惹,看著手邊
的3A平台,再戰十年之後準備跳槽IntelQQ
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at 2014-11-01T03:45
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射惹
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at 2014-11-10T23:59
推~
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at 2014-11-15T21:01
OB都不在了 AMD能活嘛?
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at 2014-11-17T19:30
obov
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at 2014-11-19T07:50
obov:QQ
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身寸惹QQ
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at 2014-11-24T21:12
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at 2014-11-26T01:48
Nv:ATI 有55波過?
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By Heather
at 2014-11-29T03:07
3850開始就跟nv能對打了,55波一定有過
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By Kumar
at 2014-12-02T12:52
不過現在家裡的電腦從3A變成1A3I,剩顯卡AMD
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By Cara
at 2014-12-06T08:55
看來我要換家了...本身是速龍2,與其買FX,乾脆跳i5
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By Sierra Rose
at 2014-12-10T04:11
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By Michael
at 2014-12-13T11:48
fx6300 我的散熱器還不想換啊
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By Ida
at 2014-12-14T04:18
2016 K12架構 amd重返榮耀 還沒到就跳槽了
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By Vanessa
at 2014-12-14T10:07
推阿~
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我的耶蛇龍630,QQ
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at 2014-12-30T17:14
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By John
at 2014-12-31T03:29
可惜最近想組台apu說
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By Elma
at 2015-01-04T22:21
在nv不成氣候時,ati橫掃oem市場,ati>nv很多
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By Connor
at 2015-01-07T19:29
55當然有過,只是指的是ati佔有率下降到跟nv平分
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By Hardy
at 2015-01-12T02:16
ptt剛開站的年代,nv是洗洗睡惹
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By David
at 2015-01-16T18:44
以後手機要換iphone惹
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By Brianna
at 2015-01-19T22:49
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By Lauren
at 2015-01-24T01:09
當初NV印象中是驅動一堆問題= = 在下就被燒過卡一次
所以那時候就被推7750了,看樣子又要跳回NV了?
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By Hamiltion
at 2015-01-27T19:42
A8-7600到底要不要上市啦...
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By Christine
at 2015-01-28T11:00
turion還會回來嗎QQ
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By Olive
at 2015-02-01T11:32
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By Carolina Franco
at 2015-02-05T06:31
ob大的AMD八卦再見啦~~
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By Iris
at 2015-02-05T13:37
NV當年靠SEGA救起來
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By Valerie
at 2015-02-08T04:40
幫QQ
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By Lily
at 2015-02-10T04:58
恩登可以開始轉載水果的八卦了~ QQ
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By Olivia
at 2015-02-12T09:00
學某薏仁秀唉鳳嗎?
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at 2015-02-13T15:56
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at 2015-02-17T11:13
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By Faithe
at 2015-02-19T02:52
以後不能拿amd的卦釣obov了
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By George
at 2015-02-22T04:02
INTEL 搶進低階市場 AMD全輸了
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By Callum
at 2015-02-24T04:48
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By Donna
at 2015-02-28T21:42
驅動我覺得A跟NV都各有各的問題...
但是A的就是總有某些硬傷在裡面...
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By Isabella
at 2015-03-02T09:20
QQ 難道真的要放棄AMD了嗎
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By Oscar
at 2015-03-04T07:38
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By Kelly
at 2015-03-06T03:32
QQ 真的跳水果的話 水果對保密很嚴的吧
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By Ula
at 2015-03-10T14:37
QQ我的965要成為我最後一顆AMD的產品了嗎
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By Irma
at 2015-03-11T22:11
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By Agatha
at 2015-03-14T18:24
水果保密不是開玩笑der
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By Charlie
at 2015-03-19T02:44
QQ 哭☆惹☆ㄦ
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By Thomas
at 2015-03-22T11:30
QQ 從K6-2到945都用AMD 直到去年底..
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By Candice
at 2015-03-24T10:45
QQ不過顯卡從GTX260跳回R9 270X惹
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By Ina
at 2015-03-27T22:55
推 我難過
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at 2015-04-01T22:33
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By George
at 2015-04-02T02:43
QQ 看來下一代王卡要買NV了...
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By Gilbert
at 2015-04-06T05:33
所以原po跳到哪家公司了?
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at 2015-04-08T22:14
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at 2015-04-12T21:44
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By Olive
at 2015-04-21T16:30
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at 2015-04-23T04:50
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at 2015-04-26T04:16
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By Michael
at 2015-04-29T03:13
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By Tom
at 2015-05-01T00:04
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By David
at 2015-05-04T13:00
QQ 身寸★惹ㄦ~
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By Hazel
at 2015-05-05T05:15
QQ 身寸☆惹ㄦ OBOV大掰掰
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By Ursula
at 2015-05-09T07:50
反正AMD那麼糞 不用也罷
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By David
at 2015-05-13T08:40
QQ
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By Anthony
at 2015-05-15T03:35
QQ 沒辦法一起見證重返榮耀了 怒下單買顆i7
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By Cara
at 2015-05-19T02:01
obov大 QQ 不能一起身寸★惹ㄦ
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By Connor
at 2015-05-23T20:57
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By Isla
at 2015-05-27T00:22
QQ 所以obov射去哪裡的新公司了?
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By Olivia
at 2015-05-28T07:27
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-05-30T08:46
QQ AMD還欠我遊戲
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By Hamiltion
at 2015-06-02T02:38
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By Ursula
at 2015-06-06T14:34
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By Valerie
at 2015-06-11T00:00
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By Mary
at 2015-06-11T08:19
最後一身寸惹
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By Hedda
at 2015-06-12T06:46
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By Hamiltion
at 2015-06-13T13:52
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By Gilbert
at 2015-06-16T06:04
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By Sandy
at 2015-06-16T16:37
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By Catherine
at 2015-06-19T09:17
99推
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By Audriana
at 2015-06-20T14:44
QQ推
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By Lily
at 2015-06-22T15:06
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By Adele
at 2015-06-26T10:49
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By Thomas
at 2015-06-30T08:05
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at 2015-07-03T04:59
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at 2015-07-03T14:11
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By Dinah
at 2015-07-08T13:13
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By David
at 2015-07-10T08:43
QQ 感謝obov大爆卦 話說這幾年變化真大 平板趨勢都變
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By Mary
at 2015-07-13T21:05
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at 2015-07-14T00:14
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at 2015-07-15T16:29
QQ 足兆木曹惹
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By Yedda
at 2015-07-17T13:46
QQ 話說intel更怕amd倒吧,怕歐盟/美國用反托拉斯法
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By Callum
at 2015-07-19T16:12
QQ 沒有obov的AMD 要我怎麼支持AMD 下顆只好買intel
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at 2015-07-21T03:38
QQ 跪著推文
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at 2015-07-25T20:08
QQ OBOV大加油
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at 2015-07-30T11:52
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at 2015-08-04T09:15
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at 2015-08-08T23:35
QQ obov大感謝惹

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