極客灣-天璣8100/9000深度分析 到底多強? - 手機討論

By Liam
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at 2022-03-25T21:16
Table of Contents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8DIcRk1JzQ
簡單回顧一下這兩款CPU架構
https://i.imgur.com/VowJJR7.png
天璣9000跟包莖1架構類似 L3更大 記憶體支援LPD5X 更優秀的製程有更高時脈
https://i.imgur.com/2lZxYRq.png
天璣8100的架構是舊核心架構 連X1都沒 但也用上更好的製程 且時脈也比888高不少
https://i.imgur.com/p54Xp99.png
GB5 8100的多核輕鬆打掉包莖1沒問題 更別說9000
只是還是看不到A15車尾燈
8100沒有超大核 單核效能自然比不上888跟包莖1 只能比865好些
https://i.imgur.com/xfZ99Kn.png
另外 這兩款成績都比工程機高
我記得有位 不知道是誰來著的 說聯發科的工程機作弊 造假?
那個人 有人要幫我找一下嗎?
能耗比部分
https://i.imgur.com/QH7b15s.png
天璣9000雖然有高效能 但功耗也是沒在跟你客氣的
單核4.7W 多核11.3W甚至超越包莖1
但至少有更好的效能 因此能耗比都比包莖1好上不少
有意思的是8100 能耗比單核全場最佳 甚至比865跟A15更好
多核也比865強 勉強看到A15車尾燈
以上都是峰值效能跟工耗 如果加上均衡模式下的跑分
https://i.imgur.com/iJFdnAS.png
9000開平衡模式效能掉了不少 但還是能輕鬆贏包莖1
能耗比也比極端模式下進步不少
最猛的是8100 效能都少一些 但能耗比進步非常誇張 多核甚至比A15的能耗比還強
https://i.imgur.com/qIrj4Kx.png
效能相近的情況下 更能表現出台GG製成比三星製成的優勢
https://i.imgur.com/X0dNVJ3.png
然後 小米同樣也有跑分白名單 是不怕再被除名??
https://i.imgur.com/flQEk7i.png
讓跑分相近後 對比一下能效比
可以再度看到天璣9000的功耗明顯優於三台8系列 比865還更好
https://i.imgur.com/IOhcA8J.png
結果還是打不過蘋果大魔王 A14(內文應該要是12PM 打錯了吧)功耗甚至只有3.6W
https://i.imgur.com/65YOw5o.png
GPU部分 天璣的弱勢 9000比包莖1低了不少 但1440P差不多
8100也就勉強碰到888車尾燈 但比865好不少
https://i.imgur.com/2kTb3Ax.png
8100的GPU架構也只能說普通 能效其實不如天璣9000
但都比其他高通好了很多
https://i.imgur.com/0zeWYzl.png
另外 天璣對Vulkan的效能沒有太大優勢
https://i.imgur.com/Le7yFjz.png
3DM也是一樣 9000不如包莖1
8100不如888
但9000的穩定性極佳 達到88.3%
反倒這裡8100慘遭滑鐵盧 居然只有68% 比865差的很多
https://i.imgur.com/zDXNtNo.png
結果是因為根本沒跑起來 XDDD
https://i.imgur.com/9hDVaGE.png
跑Unlimited Stress Test有99%穩定度
雲飛認為這GPU表現不差 但軟體調教有不少地方要加強
https://i.imgur.com/oV3UZ8f.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZmFETIT.png
https://i.imgur.com/Na3ECwO.png
圓神已經支援天璣9000的720p了
https://i.imgur.com/QEqqeIi.png
但8100還沒 只有640p
https://i.imgur.com/H86SL4U.png
但別擔心 root後就可以把解析度都調整到720p
https://i.imgur.com/pwaPjr1.png
同設定下 9000前18分鐘可以平均[email protected] 10分鐘後K50P螢幕強制降亮度
後面時候會鎖45fps 偶爾跳回60又跳回45 這調度機制有點奇怪
https://i.imgur.com/0mObaEI.png
最終[email protected] 比起包莖1 [email protected]跟[email protected]好上不少
但還是比部過大魔王A15 [email protected]
如果散熱更好 雲飛認為可能可以壓到將近60fps
https://i.imgur.com/0o2zYyr.png
8100在實際遊戲上有點烙賽 一開始確實可以[email protected] 但只有6分鐘左右
然後就開始降頻 40~50fps反覆跳
https://i.imgur.com/SyNjWpO.png
官方調度有點問題 時不時降頻
root後鎖定時脈的話
https://i.imgur.com/fyNUztH.png
直接逼近60fps!! 但功耗值接來到6.9w!!!
是也比包莖1強啦....
https://i.imgur.com/yoEMxyW.png
https://i.imgur.com/3aQCqAh.png
小米調度上似乎怪怪的 明明4+4的CPU卻有時以1+3+4的方式來調度
https://i.imgur.com/0u0N07x.png
預設調度下溫度都在47度左右
https://i.imgur.com/N4V8kZb.png
8100在遊戲上表現真的有點出乎意料的..爛 不知道到底是SOC還是韌體問題
中畫質下9000已經可以接近60fps跑 8100後半段有明顯降頻
https://i.imgur.com/BmU66oj.png
大魔王測試下 兩台K50都是堅持3分鐘
6分鐘後大幅度降頻
再之後的調度很奇怪 會突然高又突然低 小米溫控鎖的比較嚴重?
https://i.imgur.com/6lFwEGY.png
但至少兩台溫度都表現得算是其中最好的
https://i.imgur.com/OhSBKfd.png
把K50 天璣8100鎖時脈 關溫控 最終魔鬼測試51fps
https://i.imgur.com/ra8AidU.png
溫度自然也是可怕的數字 來到57度
最後用root強制渲染1080p
https://i.imgur.com/ognbY5n.png
大部分都在50以上 偶爾跑到60 但CPU+GPU雙雙吃滿的代價 就是全機9W
https://i.imgur.com/i1Yh7DY.png
強制渲染2K的話 甚至也能到30fps
不過目前K50 Pro不支援這樣渲染 所以天璣9000的測試作罷
王者榮耀在同樣畫質下
https://i.imgur.com/pWCsEYo.png
畫質比較低 所以功耗明顯低了些 都跟870差不多
8100遊戲的功耗真的有點意外的高 理論下應該是省電的 不知道是不是認體問題
https://i.imgur.com/2lUDHvI.png
https://i.imgur.com/XLmq7Xk.png
最後是續航力測試
https://i.imgur.com/EmmFDjO.png
還是打不過大魔王13PM 13PM的省電程度真的誇張
K50敗在更高解析度又沒LTPO?
https://i.imgur.com/11J9SCp.png
深度探討後發現K50天璣許多場警的功耗都比Snapdragon更高
https://i.imgur.com/chUKGII.png
播影片的時候功耗遠超高通
https://i.imgur.com/nyEHXm2.png
一來是平常APP時調度都更為激進
看影片時甚至不時跑到2.4GHz 但這是硬解 又不是軟解 根本不需要那麼高的CPU時脈
https://i.imgur.com/ruP6zfY.png
高通這邊就很正常
在來就是高通的硬解效能也比天璣好些
然後這次天璣的5G基頻幫續航有超大buff
https://i.imgur.com/RCcTSgz.png
以前發哥誘人詬病的基頻 在5G上功耗表現非常好
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最後 雲飛認為 發哥只是把高通應該做出來結果沒做出來的東西帶來給世面
反正高通開倒車 發哥就算只做出原本該有的效能 也會是驚天動地
8100雲飛認為真的不差 但K50那麼多版本更新下 每個版本調度都不同
這也代表目前發哥版本的系統都需要更多的時間跟精力去調教
就目前來看 紅米這兩隻的系統上確實都有不少小問題 光是那調度就很奇怪了
只能端看之後bug都除玩 白勞贖都被用完後 再來看看會不會有更好的表現了
https://i.imgur.com/LtDbbar.png
socpk上 8100表現略優於870 9000也略優於8G1 趕上A14
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https://i.imgur.com/KBg10yt.png
https://i.imgur.com/eaFGdkB.png
https://i.imgur.com/VJEahXB.png
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簡單回顧一下這兩款CPU架構
https://i.imgur.com/VowJJR7.png

https://i.imgur.com/2lZxYRq.png

https://i.imgur.com/p54Xp99.png

只是還是看不到A15車尾燈
8100沒有超大核 單核效能自然比不上888跟包莖1 只能比865好些
https://i.imgur.com/xfZ99Kn.png

我記得有位 不知道是誰來著的 說聯發科的工程機作弊 造假?
那個人 有人要幫我找一下嗎?
能耗比部分
https://i.imgur.com/QH7b15s.png

單核4.7W 多核11.3W甚至超越包莖1
但至少有更好的效能 因此能耗比都比包莖1好上不少
有意思的是8100 能耗比單核全場最佳 甚至比865跟A15更好
多核也比865強 勉強看到A15車尾燈
以上都是峰值效能跟工耗 如果加上均衡模式下的跑分
https://i.imgur.com/iJFdnAS.png

能耗比也比極端模式下進步不少
最猛的是8100 效能都少一些 但能耗比進步非常誇張 多核甚至比A15的能耗比還強
https://i.imgur.com/qIrj4Kx.png

https://i.imgur.com/X0dNVJ3.png

https://i.imgur.com/flQEk7i.png

可以再度看到天璣9000的功耗明顯優於三台8系列 比865還更好
https://i.imgur.com/IOhcA8J.png

https://i.imgur.com/65YOw5o.png

8100也就勉強碰到888車尾燈 但比865好不少
https://i.imgur.com/2kTb3Ax.png

但都比其他高通好了很多
https://i.imgur.com/0zeWYzl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Le7yFjz.png

8100不如888
但9000的穩定性極佳 達到88.3%
反倒這裡8100慘遭滑鐵盧 居然只有68% 比865差的很多
https://i.imgur.com/zDXNtNo.png

https://i.imgur.com/9hDVaGE.png

雲飛認為這GPU表現不差 但軟體調教有不少地方要加強
https://i.imgur.com/oV3UZ8f.png


https://i.imgur.com/Na3ECwO.png

https://i.imgur.com/QEqqeIi.png

https://i.imgur.com/H86SL4U.png

https://i.imgur.com/pwaPjr1.png

後面時候會鎖45fps 偶爾跳回60又跳回45 這調度機制有點奇怪
https://i.imgur.com/0mObaEI.png

但還是比部過大魔王A15 [email protected]
如果散熱更好 雲飛認為可能可以壓到將近60fps
https://i.imgur.com/0o2zYyr.png

然後就開始降頻 40~50fps反覆跳
https://i.imgur.com/SyNjWpO.png

root後鎖定時脈的話
https://i.imgur.com/fyNUztH.png

是也比包莖1強啦....
https://i.imgur.com/yoEMxyW.png


https://i.imgur.com/0u0N07x.png

https://i.imgur.com/N4V8kZb.png

中畫質下9000已經可以接近60fps跑 8100後半段有明顯降頻
https://i.imgur.com/BmU66oj.png

6分鐘後大幅度降頻
再之後的調度很奇怪 會突然高又突然低 小米溫控鎖的比較嚴重?
https://i.imgur.com/6lFwEGY.png

https://i.imgur.com/OhSBKfd.png

https://i.imgur.com/ra8AidU.png

最後用root強制渲染1080p
https://i.imgur.com/ognbY5n.png

https://i.imgur.com/i1Yh7DY.png

不過目前K50 Pro不支援這樣渲染 所以天璣9000的測試作罷
王者榮耀在同樣畫質下
https://i.imgur.com/pWCsEYo.png

8100遊戲的功耗真的有點意外的高 理論下應該是省電的 不知道是不是認體問題
https://i.imgur.com/2lUDHvI.png


https://i.imgur.com/EmmFDjO.png

K50敗在更高解析度又沒LTPO?
https://i.imgur.com/11J9SCp.png

https://i.imgur.com/chUKGII.png

https://i.imgur.com/nyEHXm2.png

看影片時甚至不時跑到2.4GHz 但這是硬解 又不是軟解 根本不需要那麼高的CPU時脈
https://i.imgur.com/ruP6zfY.png

在來就是高通的硬解效能也比天璣好些
然後這次天璣的5G基頻幫續航有超大buff
https://i.imgur.com/RCcTSgz.png

--
最後 雲飛認為 發哥只是把高通應該做出來結果沒做出來的東西帶來給世面
反正高通開倒車 發哥就算只做出原本該有的效能 也會是驚天動地
8100雲飛認為真的不差 但K50那麼多版本更新下 每個版本調度都不同
這也代表目前發哥版本的系統都需要更多的時間跟精力去調教
就目前來看 紅米這兩隻的系統上確實都有不少小問題 光是那調度就很奇怪了
只能端看之後bug都除玩 白勞贖都被用完後 再來看看會不會有更好的表現了
https://i.imgur.com/LtDbbar.png

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https://i.imgur.com/KBg10yt.png



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