理想中的HTPC主板 - ROG MAXIMUS XI GENE - 3C

By Frederic
at 2019-06-16T18:02
at 2019-06-16T18:02
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每當有人在跟我討論有關AudipPC的主板要怎麼挑,我給的答案通常是找超頻用的主板
理由很簡單,一般AudioPC要求供電要穩定,訊號品質要好,跟超頻的要求是一樣的
VRM作的不夠好就上不了,SI作的不好也上不了,RAM layout沒作好也上不了高頻
不過我個人又多加了兩條要求,一要小板(最大到M-ATX),二要更低的延遲
要求小板是因為市售的初動散熱機殼只適用於小板,我個人的玩法需要無風扇系統
而降低延遲主要是改善在SSD的接法,儘可能的都接在CPU直出的PCIe上
理論上延遲最低是RAMOS,不過那使用上就有侷限,平時我還要上網打報告還是用SSD吧
官網:
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-GENE/
廢話一大篇還是先看實體吧,這代的風格改成斜紋配上少許的金屬拉絲
https://i.imgur.com/Nqx48zL.jpg
背面,列出的第一項特點就是這次的目標DIMM.2
https://i.imgur.com/wxlizas.jpg
繼續開箱,不得不說ASUS的ID真的蠻強的,每代都能帶來新的風格
https://i.imgur.com/cbJQFoP.jpg
本體,CPU被大量的散熱片環繞
https://i.imgur.com/nQOHASb.jpg
DIMM.2跟M.2插槽,最大可以安裝4條M.2 NVMe SSD (DIMM.2*2+onboard*2)
DIMM.2正反面都能裝SSD,也都有一整片散熱片去散熱,適合安裝一些高速高發熱的SSD
https://i.imgur.com/cb3UEW1.jpg
來解釋一下為什麼M11G的DIMM.2這麼重要,先看一下Intel Z390 chipset的架構圖
https://i.imgur.com/WYHZem0.jpg
基本上CPU直出的PCIe最多16條,能分成三種模式,1x16 / 2x8 / 1x8&2*4
一般板載M.2都是從PCH拉PCIe過去,走PCH最後還是要跟其他週邊一起擠DMI才到CPU
而且M11G的DIMM.2就是從CPU直出(板載那兩條還是走PCH),減少其他週邊造成的延遲
上一個這麼奇葩M.2設計也是ROG自家的M7I,不過M7I只有一條而不像M11G能最大4條
來假組合一下,看起來一切都很美好,實際上翻車啦...囧
https://i.imgur.com/CmfsAeO.jpg
DIMM.2插上後高度約63mm,已經超過Streacom FC5的高度,嚴重不相容
https://i.imgur.com/BA8dd4o.jpg
另外一個失策的地方,本來預期M11G的PCIe是第二個插糟,可以少接一片轉板
https://i.imgur.com/GJy65in.jpg
但實際上還是差了一點,還是得回頭是用延長線的PCIe轉板,延長線可用3M,ADT或立熱
不建議用普通排線作的延長線(某自吹自擂賣家用的那種),那種訊號會變的很差
https://i.imgur.com/mqprZma.jpg
最後來寫一下有關SSD挑選的問題
現階段要挑SSD儘可能挑NVMe的SSD,下面的架構圖解釋了為什麼NVMe會比ACHI SATA快
https://i.imgur.com/l0ztOnH.jpg
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7843/testing-sata-express-with-asus/4
搭配上面PCIe的分配,速度由快而慢:CPU直出PCIe > PCH分接PCIe > PCH分接SATA
再者,隨著3D nand的發展及QLC的面市,大容量SSD會越來越便宜,市場也都朝向NVMe
QLC壽命不好但作儲存碟還過的去,目前QLC SSD也都是NVMe,還沒有SATA的QLC控制器
再細部一點的說,要追求最低延遲的系統碟,大慨就非optane SSD莫屬,905p有M.2版
其次就是三星的970p,剩下的WD SN750 / 三星970EP / Plextor M9PeGN...也都不錯
https://i.imgur.com/xpDqofK.jpg
雖然裝機失敗了,但是大致組裝起來聽還真的蠻明顯提升的感覺(對比先前玩過的板子)
anyway,在新殼來之前就只能先這樣開殼著聽,再不PO文Zen2就要上市了XD
以上,感謝收看 :)
--
ID有why的人都很nice的,會這麼雞排一定有什麼誤會在
--
理由很簡單,一般AudioPC要求供電要穩定,訊號品質要好,跟超頻的要求是一樣的
VRM作的不夠好就上不了,SI作的不好也上不了,RAM layout沒作好也上不了高頻
不過我個人又多加了兩條要求,一要小板(最大到M-ATX),二要更低的延遲
要求小板是因為市售的初動散熱機殼只適用於小板,我個人的玩法需要無風扇系統
而降低延遲主要是改善在SSD的接法,儘可能的都接在CPU直出的PCIe上
理論上延遲最低是RAMOS,不過那使用上就有侷限,平時我還要上網打報告還是用SSD吧
官網:
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-GENE/
廢話一大篇還是先看實體吧,這代的風格改成斜紋配上少許的金屬拉絲
https://i.imgur.com/Nqx48zL.jpg
背面,列出的第一項特點就是這次的目標DIMM.2
https://i.imgur.com/wxlizas.jpg
繼續開箱,不得不說ASUS的ID真的蠻強的,每代都能帶來新的風格
https://i.imgur.com/cbJQFoP.jpg
本體,CPU被大量的散熱片環繞
https://i.imgur.com/nQOHASb.jpg
DIMM.2跟M.2插槽,最大可以安裝4條M.2 NVMe SSD (DIMM.2*2+onboard*2)
DIMM.2正反面都能裝SSD,也都有一整片散熱片去散熱,適合安裝一些高速高發熱的SSD
https://i.imgur.com/cb3UEW1.jpg
來解釋一下為什麼M11G的DIMM.2這麼重要,先看一下Intel Z390 chipset的架構圖
https://i.imgur.com/WYHZem0.jpg
基本上CPU直出的PCIe最多16條,能分成三種模式,1x16 / 2x8 / 1x8&2*4
一般板載M.2都是從PCH拉PCIe過去,走PCH最後還是要跟其他週邊一起擠DMI才到CPU
而且M11G的DIMM.2就是從CPU直出(板載那兩條還是走PCH),減少其他週邊造成的延遲
上一個這麼奇葩M.2設計也是ROG自家的M7I,不過M7I只有一條而不像M11G能最大4條
來假組合一下,看起來一切都很美好,實際上翻車啦...囧
https://i.imgur.com/CmfsAeO.jpg
DIMM.2插上後高度約63mm,已經超過Streacom FC5的高度,嚴重不相容
https://i.imgur.com/BA8dd4o.jpg
另外一個失策的地方,本來預期M11G的PCIe是第二個插糟,可以少接一片轉板
https://i.imgur.com/GJy65in.jpg
但實際上還是差了一點,還是得回頭是用延長線的PCIe轉板,延長線可用3M,ADT或立熱
不建議用普通排線作的延長線(某自吹自擂賣家用的那種),那種訊號會變的很差
https://i.imgur.com/mqprZma.jpg
最後來寫一下有關SSD挑選的問題
現階段要挑SSD儘可能挑NVMe的SSD,下面的架構圖解釋了為什麼NVMe會比ACHI SATA快
https://i.imgur.com/l0ztOnH.jpg
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7843/testing-sata-express-with-asus/4
搭配上面PCIe的分配,速度由快而慢:CPU直出PCIe > PCH分接PCIe > PCH分接SATA
再者,隨著3D nand的發展及QLC的面市,大容量SSD會越來越便宜,市場也都朝向NVMe
QLC壽命不好但作儲存碟還過的去,目前QLC SSD也都是NVMe,還沒有SATA的QLC控制器
再細部一點的說,要追求最低延遲的系統碟,大慨就非optane SSD莫屬,905p有M.2版
其次就是三星的970p,剩下的WD SN750 / 三星970EP / Plextor M9PeGN...也都不錯
https://i.imgur.com/xpDqofK.jpg
雖然裝機失敗了,但是大致組裝起來聽還真的蠻明顯提升的感覺(對比先前玩過的板子)
anyway,在新殼來之前就只能先這樣開殼著聽,再不PO文Zen2就要上市了XD
以上,感謝收看 :)
--
ID有why的人都很nice的,會這麼雞排一定有什麼誤會在
--
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