AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 確認提供整合顯示功能 - 3C
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By Leila
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※ 引述《ultra120 (原廠打手 !!!)》之銘言:
: 下一代AMD Ryzen CPU現在已確認提供整合GPU。
: Zen4架構的Ryzen CPU系列都將透過設計提供整合GPU。雖然這並不意味著實際上所有CPU
: 都將啟用 iGPU
: 但它確實證實了主流Zen4晶片將首次與顯示晶片配對。因此GPU將不再是Ryzen G系列APU
: 獨有的。
: 據報導該文件指出某些OPN……可能不支援GFX。這意味著AMD也將銷售禁用了專用GPU的
: Ryzen CPU
: 無論是故障還是產品定位,但基本上那些可能是AMD需要獨立GPU的“Intel F系列”CPU
: 的對應產品
: 就像所有Zen1-3非-G系列Ryzen處理器一樣。
: 另外之前洩露的路線圖列出了Raphael CPU的Navi2 (RDNA2)顯示架構
: 這個代號與預計明年作為Ryzen 7000系列推出的主流處理器系列有關。同時AMD將使用
: Navi2 GPU更新其Zen3 APU
: 這些將在FP7插槽上針對行動市場推出,但也可能作為桌上型APU(在AM4或AM5插槽上)推
: 出
: 上面張貼的相容性圖表清楚地指的是Family 19H,這意味著是Zen4微架構,換句話說
: 不是Rembrandt,而是代號為Phoenix的Raphael或Rembrandt的繼任者。
: https://i.imgur.com/92w6FBK.jpg
: 來源 https://reurl.cc/gWOe24
: XF編譯 https://www.xfastest.com/thread-253418-1-1.html
: 有自帶內顯終於可以加價賣 強迫送 不能不要
看了下來源圖片,AMD應該是找到了一個平衡點來做iGPU普及化
關鍵應該會是在iGPU到底會放哪
由於5nm的成本很高、目前7nm製程在良率上相對穩定、以及Navi2已經是7nm的情況下
我認為很大的可能會把iGPU跟著IOD做在一起
目前不論是I皇還有AMD的APU都是整合成一個Die (CPU、iGPU、I/O)
對於APU而言最大的問題是I/O部份得跟著砍,相比一般版砍了不少PCI-E通道
像5600X與5600G雖然都是24線,但後者只有3.0
如果要出帶iGPU又要保留原本的通道優勢,那最好的方式就是跟IOD整在一起
IOD跟iGPU整在一起的玩法很早就有了,即為早期帶顯示單元的北橋
不論I、A、甚至是那時代還有做晶片組的NV都玩過
另外會這樣推論的另一個原因是AMD會繼續搞chiplet
把IO跟GPU整在同一個Die上也是讓CPU Chiplet可以直接用在EPYC產品線
且也能夠降低5nm在分配上的成本
所以很大的可能會是用5nm的CPU Die、以及7nm的IO+GPU Die所構成的AM5
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: 下一代AMD Ryzen CPU現在已確認提供整合GPU。
: Zen4架構的Ryzen CPU系列都將透過設計提供整合GPU。雖然這並不意味著實際上所有CPU
: 都將啟用 iGPU
: 但它確實證實了主流Zen4晶片將首次與顯示晶片配對。因此GPU將不再是Ryzen G系列APU
: 獨有的。
: 據報導該文件指出某些OPN……可能不支援GFX。這意味著AMD也將銷售禁用了專用GPU的
: Ryzen CPU
: 無論是故障還是產品定位,但基本上那些可能是AMD需要獨立GPU的“Intel F系列”CPU
: 的對應產品
: 就像所有Zen1-3非-G系列Ryzen處理器一樣。
: 另外之前洩露的路線圖列出了Raphael CPU的Navi2 (RDNA2)顯示架構
: 這個代號與預計明年作為Ryzen 7000系列推出的主流處理器系列有關。同時AMD將使用
: Navi2 GPU更新其Zen3 APU
: 這些將在FP7插槽上針對行動市場推出,但也可能作為桌上型APU(在AM4或AM5插槽上)推
: 出
: 上面張貼的相容性圖表清楚地指的是Family 19H,這意味著是Zen4微架構,換句話說
: 不是Rembrandt,而是代號為Phoenix的Raphael或Rembrandt的繼任者。
: https://i.imgur.com/92w6FBK.jpg
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/92w6FBKl.jpg?e=1630591707&s=pPEGGzZfEPDr1ukxp4O8TQ)
: XF編譯 https://www.xfastest.com/thread-253418-1-1.html
: 有自帶內顯終於可以加價賣 強迫送 不能不要
看了下來源圖片,AMD應該是找到了一個平衡點來做iGPU普及化
關鍵應該會是在iGPU到底會放哪
由於5nm的成本很高、目前7nm製程在良率上相對穩定、以及Navi2已經是7nm的情況下
我認為很大的可能會把iGPU跟著IOD做在一起
目前不論是I皇還有AMD的APU都是整合成一個Die (CPU、iGPU、I/O)
對於APU而言最大的問題是I/O部份得跟著砍,相比一般版砍了不少PCI-E通道
像5600X與5600G雖然都是24線,但後者只有3.0
如果要出帶iGPU又要保留原本的通道優勢,那最好的方式就是跟IOD整在一起
IOD跟iGPU整在一起的玩法很早就有了,即為早期帶顯示單元的北橋
不論I、A、甚至是那時代還有做晶片組的NV都玩過
另外會這樣推論的另一個原因是AMD會繼續搞chiplet
把IO跟GPU整在同一個Die上也是讓CPU Chiplet可以直接用在EPYC產品線
且也能夠降低5nm在分配上的成本
所以很大的可能會是用5nm的CPU Die、以及7nm的IO+GPU Die所構成的AM5
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