Intel想在格羅方德下單 - 3C

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作者: kyle5241 (Kyle Korver) 看板: Stock
標題: [新聞] Intel想在格羅方德下單
時間: Tue Jan 28 07:17:14 2020


1.原文連結:
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2.原文內容:

Rumor: Intel Moving Select CPUs To GlobalFoundries

謠言:英特爾將部分CPU轉移到GlobalFoundries來製造


Rumor: Intel will be offloading select CPUs to GloFo in 2020
That Intel underestimated demand for its 14nm process is an understatement.
Having just knocked off a record quarter the company is already trying to
increase fab capacity by 25% but even that might not be enough to survive the
onslaught of expected growth of the PC industry in 2020. Since Intel's GPUs
are also supposed to enter the fray in terms of production this year, things
are going to be very tight and the company needs to manage its production
lines very carefully in order to have a chance of meeting demand and not
bleeding more market/mind share to AMD. This is where this particular rumor
comes in.

英特爾低估了其14納米工藝的需求,這是一種輕描淡寫的說法。剛剛結束創紀錄的季度
後,該公司已經在嘗試將晶圓廠產能提高25%,但這甚至不足以承受2020年PC行業預期
增長的衝擊。由於英特爾的GPU也將在今年的產線中競爭,因此情況將非常緊張,該公司
需要非常謹慎地管理其生產線,以便有機會滿足需求並且不會把市佔率失血給AMD.
這就是這個謠言的來源。

Since GloFo is stuck at the 14nm/16nm process for now this would make sense
as Intel would be freeing up critical fab space for its higher end processors
while moving these parts where the market is fairly stagnant to GloFo.
Another reason why this rumor makes sense is that the transition to GloFo is
in line with their vision (as opposed to TSMC) considering the former is
located inside the United States and the status quo socio-political scenario
right now wouldn't look too kindly at outsourcing capability to TSMC.

由於GloFo暫時停留在14nm / 16nm工藝上,因此這是有道理的,因為英特爾將為其高端處
理器釋放關鍵的製造廠空間,同時將這些部件轉移到市場對GloFo相當停滯的地方。 謠言
之所以有意義的另一個原因是,考慮到前者位於美國境內,並且目前的社會政治情況看起
來不太友好,因此向GloFo過渡符合他們的願景(與台積電相反) 台積電的外包能力。

According to our source, here are the lineups Intel is considering moving to
GloFo:

根據消息來源,以下是Intel可能考慮轉移的產線。

Celerons (very likely)
Pentiums (very likely)
Core i3s (maybe)

There have also been rumors that Intel is considering tapping TSMC for its
next-generation graphics cards (certainly not the DG1) which would free up a
ton of space at the cost of relying on an outside foundry for production.
While I do not believe it is in Intel's best interests, this strategy also
paves the way for a future spin off of the manufacturing group and allowing
the company to become independent as a design house (that said, AMD's Wafer
Supply Agreement is essentially a dead weight and while the company has
managed to creatively work around it, the same might not be true for a
post-spun-off Intel).

也有傳言稱,英特爾正在考慮將台積電用於其下一代圖形卡(當然不是DG1),這將釋放
大量空間,但要依賴外部代工廠進行生產。 儘管我認為這不符合英特爾的最大利益,但
這種策略也為將來分拆製造部門並允許該公司作為設計公司獨立而鋪平了道路(也就是說
,AMD的晶圓供應協議本質上是死沉沉了,儘管該公司已設法創造性地解決了這一問題
,但對於分拆後的英特爾而言可能並非如此。

The choice to offload Celerons and Pentiums makes the most sense because
these are processors which don't really need the cutting edge lithography or
node maturity that is available in Intel's 14nm+++. GlobalFoundries nodes
would suffice just as much in these lower tier platforms and I think it makes
definitive business sense to get rid of these. The Core i3 part on the other
hand I am not so sure off because that is a mainstream desktop part and one
that is closely tied to the Intel brand name and since GloFo's process is
going to be different to Intel's (unless the company shares its trade secret
'CopyExactly") it could potentially damage the company's goodwill.

卸載賽揚和奔騰處理器的選擇是最有意義的,因為這些處理器實際上並不需要英特爾
14nm +++中提供的最先進的光刻技術或節點成熟度。 在這些較低層的平台中,
GlobalFoundries節點就足夠了,我認為擺脫這些節點具有一定的商業意義。 另一方面,
我不太確定Core i3部件是因為它是台式機的主流部件,並且與Intel品牌名稱緊密相關,
並且因為GloFo的流程將與Intel的流程有所不同(除非該公司共享其貿易) 機密“
CopyExactly”),可能會損害公司的商譽。

All that said, if this turns out to be true, Intel should be able to add a
few percentage points of capacity on top of the 25% this quarter and if the
ramp to 10nm goes successfully would be finally out of murky waters by early
2021. That this is going to be a make or break time for the company would
also be an understatement. If 10nm fails, then the company is looking at
loosing a lot more market-share to AMD and once the 14nm node becomes old
enough, demand would quickly fall as well.

話雖如此,如果事實證明這是真的,那麼英特爾應該能夠在本季度的25%之上增加幾個百
分點的容量,如果成功實現10nm的升級,那麼到2021年初最終將擺脫困境 對於公司而言
,這將是一個成敗的時機,這也是一種輕描淡寫的說法。 如果10nm失效,那麼該公司正
在考慮失去更多的市場份額給AMD,而一旦14nm節點變得足夠老,需求也會迅速下降。

3.心得/評論:
※必需填寫滿20字

沒想到風水輪流轉

竟然變成Intel可能需要Globalfountries

在intel產能的不足的情況下

釋出一些單也比較有彈性一點啦~

反正低階的cpu它擺明也不想要生產了

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Tags: 3C

All Comments

Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-01-29T02:52
AMD高階都ALL IN GG了 毛利低歡迎給其他家啊
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2020-02-02T22:35
與AMD分享心得? 這是機器翻譯?
John avatar
By John
at 2020-02-04T04:21
99 glofo
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2020-02-04T21:19
GF陰AMD不夠還要陰中離王?
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2020-02-08T13:28
把GF買下不是更快
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2020-02-09T17:23
google翻譯?
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2020-02-10T20:15
這翻譯不行
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-02-13T09:05
AMD都放棄治療不要的公司,牙膏廠想要?
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-02-13T21:29
補一些低階產地而已 沒什麼問題吧
產能
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-02-18T14:55
快下。下了,GG跟AMD股價就漲翻天
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2020-02-21T03:27
趕快下 我先amd yes
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-02-21T21:45
越缺貨,英特爾賺越大.....
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2020-02-22T05:35
跟鬼拿藥單
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2020-02-24T10:26
GF的14/16nm ....算了做做賽揚而已....
大概是算一算GF做成本只有自己家一半吧
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-02-28T07:49
畢竟i3就只是i7屏蔽不划算吧
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2020-03-04T03:29
GF....只能說保重
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-03-08T00:45
拿GF不如拿Samsung Austin....;
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-03-10T00:20
把GF塞滿,卡住 Ryzen IO die產能
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2020-03-14T00:46
這node等於牙膏自己22nm而已 空自己產能給server用
而已
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-03-17T09:13
請鬼拿藥單
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-03-21T23:02
語畢...哄堂大笑
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-03-24T02:01
看來真的要跟AMD黃金交叉了
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-03-24T23:10
AMD即使技術追上來 GG產能也不足以挑戰i皇霸者地位
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-03-28T09:24
AMD若從intel手中再搶10%市占率 已是非常了不得了
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-03-30T19:28
給GF會輸更快 哈
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-04-02T04:01
快把移動端晶片交給GG了啦
George avatar
By George
at 2020-04-03T05:53
病急亂投醫阿.....
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2020-04-07T20:40
垃圾翻譯
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2020-04-09T03:06
這是玩大風吹的意思嗎
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2020-04-12T04:45
搶別人女友,這部我看過
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-04-13T11:44
這樣想其實也不錯 GPUGG7nm 晶片組GF12nm CPU14nm
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2020-04-15T06:01
直接下單三星不是更快?
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-04-15T13:04
不進則退是真的
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2020-04-19T17:09
GG的16/12產線老早就排滿了...這營收主力
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2020-04-21T21:17
完了,i忘記A之前都是格羅方德在脫油瓶嗎......
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-04-26T19:27
有意思
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2020-04-27T02:39
根本不同製程啊...要下GF也會有很多花費
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2020-04-28T09:18
上一個和GF合作的CPU商的下場...
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-04-30T05:02
確定!intel要跟前女友結婚了
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-04-30T21:38
intel就是靠前女友讓AMD追不到...台GG這門好親事..
有那麼嚴重
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2020-05-04T07:00
AMD表示 爽
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-05-05T13:07
GF是豬隊友= =
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-05-09T08:54
這算NTR嗎
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-05-12T17:11
認真? 請鬼拿藥單?
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-05-14T18:58
回收業
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-05-19T02:40
晶圓廠輪流轉
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2020-05-23T20:59
XD
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2020-05-25T23:41
請鬼拿藥單
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2020-05-27T14:39
全盤皆輸
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-05-30T08:04
這是想找背鍋的?
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-06-03T21:51
你的GF變成我的形狀惹
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2020-06-05T01:38
爛鍋配爛蓋,這下好笑了
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2020-06-09T03:42
可見intel產能真的很吃緊
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-06-11T22:43
我覺得作晶片後段的工程師聽到這個會先想死XDDD
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-06-13T14:33
光罩和設計一定是大改甚至整個砍掉重來了
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2020-06-14T17:02
以後就會intel製造,非常稀少
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-06-19T02:16
完全可以啊!! 反正intel低階都不能超頻
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2020-06-21T21:11
跑4GHz用GF很夠用 GF被罵是超不上去
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2020-06-25T11:01
笑死
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2020-06-27T11:24
這應該不算NTR吧 畢竟已經是前女友了
John avatar
By John
at 2020-06-28T05:55
以後intel也有機會開核的意思嗎(X)
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-06-30T06:13
能下gf gg就不遠了
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-07-03T10:56
投GF...... 保重
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2020-07-07T11:56
豬隊友的腿你也敢抱...若成真intel真的急了
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-07-11T04:20
AMD都不想用了跑去用?
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-07-12T11:53
放棄治療了
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-07-12T17:59
Gf...
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2020-07-16T11:30
請鬼拿藥單??
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-07-20T07:28
漏尿的形狀
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2020-07-22T14:59
哈哈哈。笑你不敢
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2020-07-24T03:35
商業競合
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-07-24T07:50
笑死,I皇去撿蘇媽不要的
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-07-25T17:11
這不叫NTR吧 這叫接盤俠
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-07-28T11:18
竹科典範 專撿人不要的
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2020-07-30T05:07
amd真棒
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-08-01T06:03
暖化幫兇豬隊友
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-08-04T13:58
回收業者 改綠色廠標
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-08-09T08:36
說真的即使是賽揚奔騰 和i3~i9也是同架構吧
只是核心和快取給得比較少
不認為GF有辦法做出賽揚,再怎說還是intel等級才
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-08-10T15:42
做得出的東西

35k matlab演算法機

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