i皇:別太關注製程 新製程沒提升多少效能 - 3C

Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2021-12-10T15:01

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※ 引述《oppoR20 (發情豹紋)》之銘言:
: Intel談CPU研發:別太關注工藝 新工藝沒提高多少性能
: https://news.mydrivers.com/1/801/801693.htm
: —
: 對於CPU處理器來說,很多人都非常關注使用的製程,過去幾年中Intel因為長期使用14nm製
: 程被玩家吐槽多年,今年桌面處理器也終於上了Intel 7製程(之前名字是10nm),12代酷
: 睿Alder Lake的表現很不錯。
: 雖然Intle已經靠著新製程翻身了,性能及能效表現不輸友商的7nm銳龍,不過他們表示大家
: 不要太過關注新製程,因為新技術也不一定能帶來多大的性能提升。
: 日前在瑞銀會議上,Intel副總裁Sandra Rivera表示,開發新的處理器及架構時,它們與特
: 定光刻製程的關係沒有那麼重要。
: Sandra Rivera稱開發一款新的處理器至少要兩年多時間,只有在設計階段的最後部分才會
: 考慮製造製程,而新製程並不會帶來顯著的性能提升,從這點上來說大家太過關注新製程沒
: 什麼必要。

原文應該在這裡
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4473941-intel-corporation-intc-presents-ubs-2021-global-tmt-conference-transcript
https://bit.ly/3EPf1x2
https://archive.md/h47fF

最接近這個翻譯的應該是這一段
But there are tiles and chiplets are part of the solution that may not meet
the latest process technology and where we can benefit from capacity from
external foundry. We make those decisions following that tick-up model that
we've had historically where we will want to be consistent, perhaps with some
of those tiles, we don't need to change them or redesign them to a new
process technology because that's not where the big performance increase is
going to come from. And so we look out in time. We are designing our products
two years ahead and in some cases longer in terms of the IPs. But it doesn't
mean that we're double investing, it just means that we take a look at the
overall architecture and the construct of the product that we want to build
and then make decisions on with the different IP, the different tiles in
terms of the foundry process. So it does take, of course, foresight and
planning because silicon development are long and expensive campaigns. And so
you are looking at time. But it's not a dual drive strategy, meaning that we
don't have parallel teams working on the same IP on different process
technologies.

這一段講的是,有些chiplets不需要最先進的製程,因為這些tiles用最先進製程也不會效能大增,整段講的有條有理,主要是有些chiplet會委外代工,Intel一定會取最有利的方法。

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中文媒體造謠製造業由來已久。有的一看就知道有問題的報導。Chiplet本來就是不同製程混和來降低成本的方法。媒體故意扭曲來增加點閱率

Pat回來就是為了製程,這整篇Sandra就是在吹Intel製程沒問題,IDM2.0沒問題,但Intel還是會委外代工。跟Pat講的一樣。
也講DC(ICL,SPR),講AI,Sandra負責的部份。

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Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2021-12-11T15:54
媒體滴能不意外
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2021-12-12T16:46
低 每次都一堆莫名其妙的新聞 闢謠不會下架也不會改
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-12-12T05:12
感謝
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2021-12-13T06:04
正常吧 台積新聞都變流量密碼了
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2021-12-12T05:12
只要是intel新聞幾乎都一定扯成跟針對台積或是製程競賽 但來都不看場
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2021-12-13T06:04
合或是人家受邀訪問的議題 跟談論與會對象....
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-12-12T05:12
補推 原文出處 感謝~
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2021-12-13T06:04
驅動之家的我都當笑話看
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2021-12-12T05:12
尤其他們新聞都不附原文來源
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2021-12-13T06:04
謝謝
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2021-12-12T05:12
基本上就是IC Design的終極目標吧3DIC加上切module用適合的製程 像
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-12-13T06:04
類比電路就不用追到最新 有些用太新反而是反效果沒差的也不用上高階製程 用低階省錢
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2021-12-12T05:12
在慢慢黏起來就好 只是牙膏2.5D才做AMD很敢 直接MCM就上了
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2021-12-13T06:04
好分享給推
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2021-12-12T05:12
力積電 噴噴
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2021-12-13T06:04
所以看文等正確資訊在回就好~感謝
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2021-12-12T05:12
光是看到驅動之家就知道可信度存疑首篇還一堆人跟著起舞高潮 這就是愛看第四台商業新聞台的水準 笑死
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By Damian
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Seeking alpha 收費QQ
David avatar
By David
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有領薪水的引戰
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2021-12-13T06:04
連類比IC龍頭德州儀器都老神在在了,不過德儀也是這波晶片荒的主因之一,今年才要新蓋廠…
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2021-12-12T05:12
看過原文 有人就是會轉中國製造的廢文過來 不過都叫oppo了舔起來也不是很意外
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2021-12-13T06:04
當然普羅大眾英文程度要啃這整段也很難 更不用說科大仔
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
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對岸農場=觀落陰大濕
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2021-12-13T06:04
意思就是你relay用先進製程也還只是個relay
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2021-12-12T05:12
是不是有一個連空格都分不出來的猴子在推文叫Oppo這名字講多少次了為什麼叫這樣不聽就是不聽那我也不意外
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2021-12-13T06:04
所以目前頻率最高的gate是用啥製程?
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-12-12T05:12
A粉難得能高潮一會兒 哭哭
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By Frederic
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哇 i粉取暖區xddd
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