LG G5相機 竟然直接沿用G4! - 手機討論

By Hedda
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at 2016-02-24T11:40
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原文43 推文比原文有趣多了
→ blueskyly : 像素不是越高越好 sensor小用內插衝帳面規格 只是騙 02/24 10:18
→ blueskyly : 騙不懂的消費者
這段嚴格來說blueskyly沒有說錯
確實總畫素不是越高就一定越好
但是用內插衝高帳面規格 這是好幾年前某些小DC會做的事情
近幾年來大家規格寫畫素通常是直接拿sensor實體點數出來寫
而不是寫最後結果
因此小弟推文
推 kblover : 用內插衝pixel這種事情好幾年沒聽過了www
畢竟真的很久沒聽到了 當然你說有也不是不可能拉
→ blueskyly : 不是google不到就沒有啊WWW
→ blueskyly : 去問問學VLSI的朋友吧XD
後半段我誠心向blueskyly請教 畢竟我是有學EE的朋友也還不少
只是哪些人玩VLSI我就不清楚了 印象中是沒有
推 kblover : 哇我沒有這種朋友欸,那麻煩你直接講出來哪幾隻手 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 機或哪些相機 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 用了這招,畢竟這裡你比較厲害,趕快教一下大家啊, 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 造福板友
畢竟如果現在還有哪家廠商搞這招 如果blueskyly大大肯公布
那一定也是造福版友 大家就會知道哪些可能要手機、相機避免挑選
結果我真心換絕情
推 blueskyly : 我可以推薦你數位影像處理和電子學的書 有興趣站內 02/24 10:45
→ blueskyly : 信囉>.Λ kblover版主
版友也紛紛向blueskyly討教
→ kira925 : 只能有請blueskyly賜教那些sensor是用內插pixel了
→ charlie20083: 如果現在的鏡頭都沒有插補點你要不要吃個幾顆以示負 02/24 10:35
→ charlie20083: 責?
→ Freecoins : blue幹嘛轉移話題,哪家用這種技術講一下啊不要不跟 02/24 10:47
→ Freecoins : 大家分享QQ
→ battlewind : 拿那些書要幹嘛 就說現在哪些手機畫素是內插來的就 02/24 10:48
→ battlewind : 好啦
結果blueskyly開始耍嘴皮子
推 blueskyly : 不先從基礎開始 怎麼學XDDD
推 blueskyly : kblover 等你讀完書啊XD
=============================================================
以下就我跟懂EE朋友的人討論過的部分 請懂的人指教阿
畢竟雖然我不是EE出身 不過這一點基礎也還是不難的
8M 13M
Sensor -> ISP/DSP -> 進OS
光電 VLSI VLSI/資工
Sensor的結構要畫有點麻煩 但基本概念是這樣(不管BSI等等的)
顏色遮罩
感光閘極
訊號轉換電路
這裡怎麼看都覺得要搞內插的時候是DSP負責 跟sensor沒什麼關聯
而高畫素並非一定好 現在常見的原因也不是因為要搞內插
而是這樣單一pixel size比較大 訊號SNR比較高會有優勢
而且完全沒有回答到
到底是哪些估狗不到的手機/相機現在還在標內插過後的像素數目
這點基本常識不用去啃電子學也能懂
所以現在恭請blueskyly回答 到底是哪些手機相機還在玩內插呢 謝謝!
--
→ blueskyly : 像素不是越高越好 sensor小用內插衝帳面規格 只是騙 02/24 10:18
→ blueskyly : 騙不懂的消費者
這段嚴格來說blueskyly沒有說錯
確實總畫素不是越高就一定越好
但是用內插衝高帳面規格 這是好幾年前某些小DC會做的事情
近幾年來大家規格寫畫素通常是直接拿sensor實體點數出來寫
而不是寫最後結果
因此小弟推文
推 kblover : 用內插衝pixel這種事情好幾年沒聽過了www
畢竟真的很久沒聽到了 當然你說有也不是不可能拉
→ blueskyly : 不是google不到就沒有啊WWW
→ blueskyly : 去問問學VLSI的朋友吧XD
後半段我誠心向blueskyly請教 畢竟我是有學EE的朋友也還不少
只是哪些人玩VLSI我就不清楚了 印象中是沒有
推 kblover : 哇我沒有這種朋友欸,那麻煩你直接講出來哪幾隻手 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 機或哪些相機 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 用了這招,畢竟這裡你比較厲害,趕快教一下大家啊, 02/24 10:32
推 kblover : 造福板友
畢竟如果現在還有哪家廠商搞這招 如果blueskyly大大肯公布
那一定也是造福版友 大家就會知道哪些可能要手機、相機避免挑選
結果我真心換絕情
推 blueskyly : 我可以推薦你數位影像處理和電子學的書 有興趣站內 02/24 10:45
→ blueskyly : 信囉>.Λ kblover版主
版友也紛紛向blueskyly討教
→ kira925 : 只能有請blueskyly賜教那些sensor是用內插pixel了
→ charlie20083: 如果現在的鏡頭都沒有插補點你要不要吃個幾顆以示負 02/24 10:35
→ charlie20083: 責?
→ Freecoins : blue幹嘛轉移話題,哪家用這種技術講一下啊不要不跟 02/24 10:47
→ Freecoins : 大家分享QQ
→ battlewind : 拿那些書要幹嘛 就說現在哪些手機畫素是內插來的就 02/24 10:48
→ battlewind : 好啦
結果blueskyly開始耍嘴皮子
推 blueskyly : 不先從基礎開始 怎麼學XDDD
推 blueskyly : kblover 等你讀完書啊XD
=============================================================
以下就我跟懂EE朋友的人討論過的部分 請懂的人指教阿
畢竟雖然我不是EE出身 不過這一點基礎也還是不難的
8M 13M
Sensor -> ISP/DSP -> 進OS
光電 VLSI VLSI/資工
Sensor的結構要畫有點麻煩 但基本概念是這樣(不管BSI等等的)
顏色遮罩
感光閘極
訊號轉換電路
這裡怎麼看都覺得要搞內插的時候是DSP負責 跟sensor沒什麼關聯
而高畫素並非一定好 現在常見的原因也不是因為要搞內插
而是這樣單一pixel size比較大 訊號SNR比較高會有優勢
而且完全沒有回答到
到底是哪些估狗不到的手機/相機現在還在標內插過後的像素數目
這點基本常識不用去啃電子學也能懂
所以現在恭請blueskyly回答 到底是哪些手機相機還在玩內插呢 謝謝!
--
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