使用多顯卡的危險性-懶人包在此 - 3C
By Gary
at 2019-05-22T12:03
at 2019-05-22T12:03
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雖然我建議能看完整版的盡量看完整版
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1558447329.A.F1D.html
但現在的趨勢,大家都喜歡懶人包
好,立刻生給你,還附上中英文圖文解說。
這次使用的主角為ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING
https://www.asus.com/tw/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z390-E-GAMING/
夠新了吧? 夠高階了吧?
官網上也清楚寫著支援多顯卡:
https://i.imgur.com/4jDbKDr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Qb3LerW.jpg
支援雙卡、三卡沒有什麼疑問吧?
接下來是懶人包,一張圖給你解決:
https://i.imgur.com/ufWQ8TI.jpg
懶人包結束,以下是Q&A時間:
1. 關於"超抽"
超抽的定義是顯示卡從PCI-E插槽抽取超過規定的電流量,以+12V來說是5.5A
但是即使顯卡不超抽,以目前主機板的供電設計,多卡使用就會有發爐的危險,
超抽的顯示卡只是讓問題更容易發生而已。
如果有人一直拘泥在超抽上而忽略了根本的問題,我也只能請您回去找國文老師。
2. 關於Tt Power
在買這顆Power以前,我買的是Enhance還是Seasonic,有點忘記,
結果不到二個月就送修了,不可一日無電腦所以送修後當場就買了這顆Power,
相比前一顆送修的,我還比較信任伺候過推土機和HD7970,經過實證的這顆Power。
然後,對於多卡使用,再高瓦數的Power也不能保證ATX 24-Pin不會燒起來好嗎。
3. 在我的案例中,我為什麼覺得ASUS要負最大責任?
再說一次,是在"我的案例中",通案的話我認為是主機板廠商。
對於電源供應器(Tt)和主機板廠商(技嘉),我會認為他們是還不知道或是長期忽略了
這個問題,他們並沒有違反任何規範,反而ASUS的顯卡超抽,明顯違反了PCI-E插槽
的供電上限,當然先找犯法的問責,不是嗎?
4. 為何主機板廠商要負最大責任?
PCI-E插槽長在主機板上面,電從你家過,
結果你用ATX 24-Pin的二根+12V小水管去餵一堆吃電怪獸,
導致有東西燒了,怎麼看都是設計不良吧?
先不管顯示卡或是電源供應器,PCI-Ex16 +12V MAX. 5.5A的規範就擺在那裏,
現在的設計根本應付不了。
要嘛你就供電給足。
要嘛你就少放點PCI-E插槽。
要嘛你也要提醒PCI-E插槽上不可安裝太多耗電裝置。
沒有一項有做到,不是嗎?
5. 為何Power廠商也要負責?
我知道Power都是依據ATX的規範下去做的,但是出問題時燒的可都是你家的電源線,
都不查查Root cause在哪裡嗎? 要不是我有做研究,我也會認為是Power的問題最大。
我對目前Power沒有對單一排線標示電流上限非常有意見,若是有標的話,
多卡的供電安全問題不是早就可以被注意到。
還需要我這業餘的、非專業人士去找那一堆資料嗎?
另外,除了Mini-Fit Jr.以外,還有Mini-Fit Plus HCS等規範,能容許更高的電流,
若是電源接頭使用更高的規格,線材用粗一點,多卡的供電安全也可解決。
關於主機板廠商用防火材質做插座這件事,"防火材質"是對一般人說的,
我想用專業一點的說法是使用了更高規範的插座。
6. 為何顯示卡廠商也要負責?
還用說嗎? 電都顯示卡在用的。
有人問: 不是先用PCI-E 6/8-Pin再從PCI-E插槽抽電嗎?
不是,根據toms的數據,更像是預先分配好比率,決定多少電從哪邊吸取。
如果一張顯示卡被設計為支援多卡,那麼在卡的供電設計上就該考慮到實際的
使用環境,盡可能從PCI-E 6/8-Pin抽電,減低PCI-E插槽的供電負擔,
MSI的1080Ti就是最好的範例。
回應網友:
1. 推 maplefoxs : 我只是想 用兩張vega56都大有人在 怎麼沒出事
因為vega56(技嘉的)雙卡只從PCI-E插槽抽取2*2.1A,共50.4W的電量,
對ATX 24-Pin來說很安全的。
2. → boringuy : 覺得用高級板跟電源就沒事,根本就沒看或看不懂內文
You got it.
3. → DayFly0515 : 只是簡單舉個例子 玩cf或sli的大有人在 難道都會燒
沒燒有二個原因:
1. 顯示卡選得好,PCI-E插槽負擔少。
2. 實務上,電源插頭、插座、排線都會留點安全空間,不會讓你立刻燒起來,
但是長時間使用就不一定了,有查到國外很多例子是過幾個月後才發現電源線
或是接頭有燒焦的痕跡。
4. 推 kamir : 970晶片組也久了,更多額外因素
推 supashang : 要一張7.8年前的中階板吃兩張570你心臟也是很大顆
推 qweertyui891: 這張板子的時空背景這麼久遠,這帽子也是扣的上
技嘉官網的截圖:
https://i.imgur.com/1UXE1vs.jpg
它說有支援,我就用了,有問題嗎?
5. 推 R119 : 主機板可以透過PCI cap. 標明每個Slot支援功率範圍 05/21 22:58
→ R119 : 正常 VBIOS 要去判斷來調整輸出功率 05/21 22:59
→ R119 : 只是現在都沒人在管就是了 05/21 23:00
感謝分享資訊,第一次知道。
只是既然沒人在管,對供電安全沒有幫助。
6. 推 kaj1983 : 看不懂,但不要玩雙卡就沒事了是吧?
推 iq1000x : 結論就是單卡就好,絕大部分的情況安全
是,封你們為真懶人包。
7. 推 godjuice07 : 我2張1070,也是華碩,要GG了
toms上查無數據,請自己小心。
建議常去摸看看那個線,那個線的皮會不會軟掉,軟到讓你覺得它已經快脫落了。
還有,插座和插頭也要記得摸。
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