散熱膏對比 石墨烯噹噹膏/Y500/MX4 - 3C
By Blanche
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at 2017-05-18T23:41
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※ 引述《yankeefat (本人內建試製51cm連裝砲)》之銘言:
: 本人有回應了
: 原文連結: https://goo.gl/JjZ92E
: Wang Dang
: 6 分鐘前
: 今天看到網路上有幾篇ptt的文章對導熱膏的指教
: 本人昨天就有看到文章,但礙於沒有PTT帳號
: 無法與當事人聯繫,釐清問題點
: 如果對於產品有疑慮也可以直接找我
: ------------------------------------------
: 產品預售之前,有蒐集了各調劑的回饋問券
: 經過20個樣品確認商品效能正常可用才販售
: http://tinyurl.com/lwc3khm 感謝gamesame7711幫縮
: 這些資料都是由測試者回饋,我不會造假任何數據
: ------------------------------------------
: 當然回顧過去對於當下的問題是沒有任何幫助
: 來看問題點
: 看到兩起案例都是溫度高居不下
: 因為沒有看到實際的下壓後情形
: 僅靠塗抹與份量無法釐清問題點
: ------------------------------------------
: 難塗抹的原因有幾點
: 1.為膏體沒有交連,不易附著在金屬上
: 2.粉體比重高,塗抹份量過多時,cooler無法有效擠開
: 3.比表面積極大,會把溶劑吸附住,但運輸或保存久候
: 會將飽和的溶劑釋出,所以會看起來會很稀的感覺
: 這幾點我會檢討如何讓導熱膏比較好塗抹
: ------------------------------------------
: 有幾點指教有誤,我這邊補充
: -------------------------------------------
: 膏體45度是溶劑與膏體的轉化溫度,形成熱鍵結
: -------------------------------------------
: 石墨烯是二維傳導下有5000 w*mK,
: 微觀下,平面有種自由度,可以互相傳遞能量
: ------------------------------------------
: 石墨烯等級從幾十塊都一公克數千美金的價格都有
: 不是全部的石墨烯都是可以拿來做膏體
: ------------------------------------------
: 這是自由經濟市場,ptt的風情我也了解
: 所有的批評我都接受,且會想辦法改善
: 我也不會亂告,所以別再說我們會告
: ------------------------------------------
: P.S ptt 上的朋友,如果有任何指教
: 都可以直接在這帖或是私下跟我交流
: 有問題的可以移駕到該文底下詢問
五告北七,我常說雞排星人當大家都北七,現在FB星人也當大家都北七
http://i.imgur.com/UDrd4Tj.jpg
Wang Dang 剛剛看ptt 上面地回應我再補充幾點
1.45度是溶劑的反應溫度,溶劑反應後石墨烯會產生熱鍵結
-> 45度下你跟我產生熱鍵結?我還斷開魂結,靈的轉移喇
2.本膏沒有使用矽油,高分子油再反覆高溫會釋出低密度矽,也就是乾裂,且矽在半導體
廠與板廠都禁用,矽會毒化鉑金,如果需要貼合的部分只要有矽沾附很難清潔,良率會出
大問題。
-> 矽在半導體廠禁用?會信這個已經不是知不知識的問題了,這是「智商問題」
矽油在整個產業有多泛用你知道嗎嗎嗎嗎嗎,這麼穩定的東西被講的一文不值
3.石墨烯是已知材料中熱阻最低的,且微觀情況下,石墨烯有很多特性都是氧化鋁、氮化
鋁的材料特性所無法比擬的,但為何導熱只有13,而不是單層石墨烯的5000,石墨烯在二
維傳導是5000,層與層的傳遞會降低,且中間還有混入油脂,讓石墨烯能聚合,所以導熱
程度會大幅降低。
-> 加油能讓石墨烯聚合?這已經是諾貝爾等級的題目了會講出在矽在半導體禁用這話
加油好嗎?
4.劉老闆不是我的小弟也不是員工,我這邊也有跟他講過了我的經營理念,產品有問題我
就不會賣,我們會針對這幾起問題點來分析,至於之前的情緒發言,我在這說聲抱歉。
-> 那之前那句PTT風氣是怎樣?大街打人小巷道歉還不情不願,先刪FB回文再說?
拎北什麼領域都玩透透,看過最不缺的就是不學無術的「神棍」,懂嗎?
再說一次,有些言論會相信的已經不是知識問題,這是「智商問題」,懂嗎?
最後,來賓MC子龍點播 MC美江 - 超自然熱鏈結
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQHkwCfCiw
--
ID有why的人都很nice的,會這麼雞排一定有什麼誤會在
--
: 本人有回應了
: 原文連結: https://goo.gl/JjZ92E
: Wang Dang
: 6 分鐘前
: 今天看到網路上有幾篇ptt的文章對導熱膏的指教
: 本人昨天就有看到文章,但礙於沒有PTT帳號
: 無法與當事人聯繫,釐清問題點
: 如果對於產品有疑慮也可以直接找我
: ------------------------------------------
: 產品預售之前,有蒐集了各調劑的回饋問券
: 經過20個樣品確認商品效能正常可用才販售
: http://tinyurl.com/lwc3khm 感謝gamesame7711幫縮
: 這些資料都是由測試者回饋,我不會造假任何數據
: ------------------------------------------
: 當然回顧過去對於當下的問題是沒有任何幫助
: 來看問題點
: 看到兩起案例都是溫度高居不下
: 因為沒有看到實際的下壓後情形
: 僅靠塗抹與份量無法釐清問題點
: ------------------------------------------
: 難塗抹的原因有幾點
: 1.為膏體沒有交連,不易附著在金屬上
: 2.粉體比重高,塗抹份量過多時,cooler無法有效擠開
: 3.比表面積極大,會把溶劑吸附住,但運輸或保存久候
: 會將飽和的溶劑釋出,所以會看起來會很稀的感覺
: 這幾點我會檢討如何讓導熱膏比較好塗抹
: ------------------------------------------
: 有幾點指教有誤,我這邊補充
: -------------------------------------------
: 膏體45度是溶劑與膏體的轉化溫度,形成熱鍵結
: -------------------------------------------
: 石墨烯是二維傳導下有5000 w*mK,
: 微觀下,平面有種自由度,可以互相傳遞能量
: ------------------------------------------
: 石墨烯等級從幾十塊都一公克數千美金的價格都有
: 不是全部的石墨烯都是可以拿來做膏體
: ------------------------------------------
: 這是自由經濟市場,ptt的風情我也了解
: 所有的批評我都接受,且會想辦法改善
: 我也不會亂告,所以別再說我們會告
: ------------------------------------------
: P.S ptt 上的朋友,如果有任何指教
: 都可以直接在這帖或是私下跟我交流
: 有問題的可以移駕到該文底下詢問
五告北七,我常說雞排星人當大家都北七,現在FB星人也當大家都北七
http://i.imgur.com/UDrd4Tj.jpg
Wang Dang 剛剛看ptt 上面地回應我再補充幾點
1.45度是溶劑的反應溫度,溶劑反應後石墨烯會產生熱鍵結
-> 45度下你跟我產生熱鍵結?我還斷開魂結,靈的轉移喇
2.本膏沒有使用矽油,高分子油再反覆高溫會釋出低密度矽,也就是乾裂,且矽在半導體
廠與板廠都禁用,矽會毒化鉑金,如果需要貼合的部分只要有矽沾附很難清潔,良率會出
大問題。
-> 矽在半導體廠禁用?會信這個已經不是知不知識的問題了,這是「智商問題」
矽油在整個產業有多泛用你知道嗎嗎嗎嗎嗎,這麼穩定的東西被講的一文不值
3.石墨烯是已知材料中熱阻最低的,且微觀情況下,石墨烯有很多特性都是氧化鋁、氮化
鋁的材料特性所無法比擬的,但為何導熱只有13,而不是單層石墨烯的5000,石墨烯在二
維傳導是5000,層與層的傳遞會降低,且中間還有混入油脂,讓石墨烯能聚合,所以導熱
程度會大幅降低。
-> 加油能讓石墨烯聚合?這已經是諾貝爾等級的題目了會講出在矽在半導體禁用這話
加油好嗎?
4.劉老闆不是我的小弟也不是員工,我這邊也有跟他講過了我的經營理念,產品有問題我
就不會賣,我們會針對這幾起問題點來分析,至於之前的情緒發言,我在這說聲抱歉。
-> 那之前那句PTT風氣是怎樣?大街打人小巷道歉還不情不願,先刪FB回文再說?
拎北什麼領域都玩透透,看過最不缺的就是不學無術的「神棍」,懂嗎?
再說一次,有些言論會相信的已經不是知識問題,這是「智商問題」,懂嗎?
最後,來賓MC子龍點播 MC美江 - 超自然熱鏈結
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQHkwCfCiw
--
ID有why的人都很nice的,會這麼雞排一定有什麼誤會在
--
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