會因為閃屏(PWM)而避開這款手機嗎? - 手機討論

By Adele
at 2017-06-29T14:47
at 2017-06-29T14:47
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有人很嗆得在那叫人去google英文
OK,隨便google "PWM EYESTRAIN"的結果是這樣
http://i.imgur.com/IjUpAWT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qGIMCyR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tfkVsrT.jpg
全部都是在怕PWM
說風聲鶴唳是「比如」這個
https://tinyurl.com/y6v5mrw4
2017 iPad seems to be PWM (flicker) :( (self.ipad)
jodiuh 於 2 月前 發表
Well, I've spent almost an hour with it and my eyes have hat familiar sting,
pain, dryness, and the start of a very bad headache.
Going back to a 6S for 10 minutes seems to have kept the pain from getting
worse.
I had an Air 2 for a week before this and experienced no problems.
Anyone else noticing this?
iPad (2017)因為容易導致眼睛疲勞,各大英文論壇都一堆人懷疑是使用PWM,
但其實,iPad是不閃屏的,這就是英語世界使用者對PWM的態度,「恐慌」
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/Co.php?bsn=60030&sn=1735368
【心得】(新增螢幕頻率解說)眼睛的健康最重要!簡單的護眼設定教學
發表:2014-05-17 20:48:21
LED與CCFL做為背光的螢幕時,都有著過亮卻不容易調暗(Dimming)的問題,簡單的
PWM技術應用了人眼視覺暫留的原理,當螢幕高速閃爍時,人眼無法感覺出來,卻因為螢
幕發亮的時間縮短而讓人覺得螢幕變暗了。(原本是一直亮著,變閃爍後,整體光源就減
少了)
也就是說,如果你的螢幕亮度越低那麼螢幕的閃爍問題就越明顯,人眼的瞳孔會因應不同
的亮度放大縮小瞳孔,如果螢幕一直閃爍那人眼就會不斷改變瞳孔的大小,久而久之眼睛
就會感到疲勞,累積下來就會得病
如果亮度太低,螢幕的閃爍就會加強,瞳孔不斷放大縮小讓眼睛更疲勞
如果亮度太高,螢幕的藍光就會加強,黃斑部應付過量藍光也會更疲勞
推 parislove3 : 高階的繪圖螢幕 Flick free/DC調光是基本配備 06/24 15:11
推 parislove3 : 再舉個更簡單的例子 傳統日光燈是60Hz 電子安定器 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 的日光燈是40kHz 以往在傳統燈具下久了眼睛容易酸 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 澀 而電子安定器就不會 這個是有科學實證 不容辯駁 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 不需要再質疑閃爍對眼睛的影響 這是鐵的事實 06/24 15:12
推 rockmanalpha: PWM這個問題在LCD版就有很多資訊可以看了 06/24 15:14
推 jimei2 : 商用電腦螢幕都會強調Flick free 原因也是在此 06/24 15:21
推 jimei2 : 手機使用時間不長 晚上低亮度才比較會有pwm疲勞感 06/24 16:00
→ jimei2 : 倒是工作螢幕要求不閃屏的 我們設計部門全部都是XD 06/24 16:01
這個問題其實「幾年前」在電腦LCD螢幕上吵的時候,很多「網路(嘴砲)專家」也出來說
這是假議題 (跟今天手機板一樣),PWM根本沒有影響,很多「理性良民」聽了磚家
意見後就說「謝謝,受教了」然後跑去買PWM螢幕
只是,今天LCD基本上(除超低階)全部是不閃屏了,不曉得當年的聽網路磚家意見
的「理性良民」那些做何感想。
基本上,亮度越低眼睛越痛的,那就是PWM,我以前眼睛度數為此增加一百多度,
今天聽到有人說PWM沒差的我只覺得無恥兩字而已,因為PWM議題涉及到龐大的利益↓
推 e22817802 : 幫推 一堆黨工可憐 我是都用阿婆 不過家人的以後會 06/25 00:51
→ e22817802 : 注意 之前就有看到類似文章謝謝你 06/25 00:51
推 leechiungyi : 推,高階品牌除了三星外.....其他確實都不是用pwn.. 06/24 15:23
大家都知道網路輿論行銷最兇的就是三星,唯一高階機種全用PWM的也就是三星,
基本上幫PWM睜眼說瞎話的十個大概八個有問題,也不太需要爭論什麼,
看看隔壁棚LCD今天都不閃屏就知道了,阿不是說PWM沒差?怎沒人買了?
推 parislove3 : 高階的繪圖螢幕 Flick free/DC調光是基本配備 06/24 15:11
↑其實中階就「都」是了
→ jimei2 : 倒是工作螢幕要求不閃屏的 我們設計部門全部都是XD 06/24 16:0
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OK,隨便google "PWM EYESTRAIN"的結果是這樣
http://i.imgur.com/IjUpAWT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qGIMCyR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tfkVsrT.jpg

全部都是在怕PWM
說風聲鶴唳是「比如」這個
https://tinyurl.com/y6v5mrw4
2017 iPad seems to be PWM (flicker) :( (self.ipad)
jodiuh 於 2 月前 發表
Well, I've spent almost an hour with it and my eyes have hat familiar sting,
pain, dryness, and the start of a very bad headache.
Going back to a 6S for 10 minutes seems to have kept the pain from getting
worse.
I had an Air 2 for a week before this and experienced no problems.
Anyone else noticing this?
iPad (2017)因為容易導致眼睛疲勞,各大英文論壇都一堆人懷疑是使用PWM,
但其實,iPad是不閃屏的,這就是英語世界使用者對PWM的態度,「恐慌」
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/Co.php?bsn=60030&sn=1735368
【心得】(新增螢幕頻率解說)眼睛的健康最重要!簡單的護眼設定教學
發表:2014-05-17 20:48:21
LED與CCFL做為背光的螢幕時,都有著過亮卻不容易調暗(Dimming)的問題,簡單的
PWM技術應用了人眼視覺暫留的原理,當螢幕高速閃爍時,人眼無法感覺出來,卻因為螢
幕發亮的時間縮短而讓人覺得螢幕變暗了。(原本是一直亮著,變閃爍後,整體光源就減
少了)
也就是說,如果你的螢幕亮度越低那麼螢幕的閃爍問題就越明顯,人眼的瞳孔會因應不同
的亮度放大縮小瞳孔,如果螢幕一直閃爍那人眼就會不斷改變瞳孔的大小,久而久之眼睛
就會感到疲勞,累積下來就會得病
如果亮度太低,螢幕的閃爍就會加強,瞳孔不斷放大縮小讓眼睛更疲勞
如果亮度太高,螢幕的藍光就會加強,黃斑部應付過量藍光也會更疲勞
推 parislove3 : 高階的繪圖螢幕 Flick free/DC調光是基本配備 06/24 15:11
推 parislove3 : 再舉個更簡單的例子 傳統日光燈是60Hz 電子安定器 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 的日光燈是40kHz 以往在傳統燈具下久了眼睛容易酸 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 澀 而電子安定器就不會 這個是有科學實證 不容辯駁 06/24 15:09
→ parislove3 : 不需要再質疑閃爍對眼睛的影響 這是鐵的事實 06/24 15:12
推 rockmanalpha: PWM這個問題在LCD版就有很多資訊可以看了 06/24 15:14
推 jimei2 : 商用電腦螢幕都會強調Flick free 原因也是在此 06/24 15:21
推 jimei2 : 手機使用時間不長 晚上低亮度才比較會有pwm疲勞感 06/24 16:00
→ jimei2 : 倒是工作螢幕要求不閃屏的 我們設計部門全部都是XD 06/24 16:01
這個問題其實「幾年前」在電腦LCD螢幕上吵的時候,很多「網路(嘴砲)專家」也出來說
這是假議題 (跟今天手機板一樣),PWM根本沒有影響,很多「理性良民」聽了磚家
意見後就說「謝謝,受教了」然後跑去買PWM螢幕
只是,今天LCD基本上(除超低階)全部是不閃屏了,不曉得當年的聽網路磚家意見
的「理性良民」那些做何感想。
基本上,亮度越低眼睛越痛的,那就是PWM,我以前眼睛度數為此增加一百多度,
今天聽到有人說PWM沒差的我只覺得無恥兩字而已,因為PWM議題涉及到龐大的利益↓
推 e22817802 : 幫推 一堆黨工可憐 我是都用阿婆 不過家人的以後會 06/25 00:51
→ e22817802 : 注意 之前就有看到類似文章謝謝你 06/25 00:51
推 leechiungyi : 推,高階品牌除了三星外.....其他確實都不是用pwn.. 06/24 15:23
大家都知道網路輿論行銷最兇的就是三星,唯一高階機種全用PWM的也就是三星,
基本上幫PWM睜眼說瞎話的十個大概八個有問題,也不太需要爭論什麼,
看看隔壁棚LCD今天都不閃屏就知道了,阿不是說PWM沒差?怎沒人買了?
推 parislove3 : 高階的繪圖螢幕 Flick free/DC調光是基本配備 06/24 15:11
↑其實中階就「都」是了
→ jimei2 : 倒是工作螢幕要求不閃屏的 我們設計部門全部都是XD 06/24 16:0
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