[獨家實測]三星、台積電到底差多少? - iOS

By Bennie
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身為相關產業從業人員
依目前看到的各項實驗結果來判斷
可以很明確的結論 CPU 功耗
*** > TSMC
這點沒什麼好爭論的
但身為一個專業人士,對於目前看到的實驗方式只有滿滿的吐槽
所以也對20%差異的結論滿心懷疑
尤其看到此篇的實驗更加驗證
市場上的的消費者實驗都缺乏嚴謹的實驗變數設定
要說 TSMC >>>> ***
絕對言之過早!!
對於6S 來說,耗電量觀測的大變數應該至少如下
1. CPU (TSMC v.s ***)
2. LCM (LGD v.s Sharp)
3. 電池. (沒看到任何討論資訊,但製程變異可能就已經有幾%的差異了,有待電池產
業強者補充)
好~看到這邊大家應該發現沒人在比較LCM 差異,但LCM 功耗是很大的…
此篇報導即說明當 LCM "背光" 關閉就可造成兩次實驗 9%(17-8)差異
除非有證明兩台6S 使用相同LCM
不然可以嚴重懷疑LCM 差異對續航能力貢獻極大
以目前6S 的 LCM 規格
Sharp 的 IGZO 技術應該就能做到了
但背光LED 顆數可能要比 LTPS 多
LGD 的 IGZO 成熟度則可能還沒這麼高
有可能是使用LTPS 出貨
反正只要符合水果規格即可
簡單說,LCM 不管是畫面資料 or 背光
能耗都是
IGZO > LTPS
此篇實驗只有關閉"背光",並無停止LCM 的 "畫面資料"
實際上 LCM 的能耗貢獻依舊未排除
(而且,到底哪家CPU 配 哪家LCM啊?)
所以除非有人能排除 LCM 和 電池製程的變異,不然此次CPU 門事件根本只是個笑話
※ 引述《dearevan (歸去,也無風雨也無晴)》之銘言:
: 自由時報的科技部門進行了實際測量
: 三星、台積電到底差多少??iPhone 6s Plus 處理器效能 PK !
: http://3c.ltn.com.tw/news/20932
: 在效能上互有勝負
: 在續航力方面則是台積電贏過三星8%
: http://3c.ltn.com.tw/news/20932?page=2
: 至於這次引起最多爭議的耗電量(電池續航力)部分,記者也以網路上引起爭議的
: Geekbench 3 軟體進行電量測試,在同一地點、同樣網路環境(中華電信 4G、WiFi
開
: 啟)、同樣螢幕設定(亮度全亮、測試期間螢幕不關閉)的條件下同時開啟測試,所得
到
: 的測試成績如下:
: 台積電處理器版本測試所得出的電池續航力時間為 4 小時 05 分,分數為 2453,三星
處
: 理器版本所得的測試時間為 3 小時 46 分,分數為 2266,兩者相差的時間為 19 分鐘
: 20 秒,約為(8%)左右,這個成績介在網友提供的數字(2-3 小時)跟蘋果公佈的
: 2-3% 之間。
: 記者也在同一條件下,在螢幕關閉的情況下進行測試,所得出的成績為台積電處理器版
本
: 為 7 小時 02 分,分數為 4228,而三星處理器版本為 6 小時 00 分,分數為 3605,
兩
: 者相差 1 小時 02 分(約 17%),在這部分差異就比較大,不過基本上應不會有人關
閉
: 背光在使用手機,所以這部分僅供參考。
--
依目前看到的各項實驗結果來判斷
可以很明確的結論 CPU 功耗
*** > TSMC
這點沒什麼好爭論的
但身為一個專業人士,對於目前看到的實驗方式只有滿滿的吐槽
所以也對20%差異的結論滿心懷疑
尤其看到此篇的實驗更加驗證
市場上的的消費者實驗都缺乏嚴謹的實驗變數設定
要說 TSMC >>>> ***
絕對言之過早!!
對於6S 來說,耗電量觀測的大變數應該至少如下
1. CPU (TSMC v.s ***)
2. LCM (LGD v.s Sharp)
3. 電池. (沒看到任何討論資訊,但製程變異可能就已經有幾%的差異了,有待電池產
業強者補充)
好~看到這邊大家應該發現沒人在比較LCM 差異,但LCM 功耗是很大的…
此篇報導即說明當 LCM "背光" 關閉就可造成兩次實驗 9%(17-8)差異
除非有證明兩台6S 使用相同LCM
不然可以嚴重懷疑LCM 差異對續航能力貢獻極大
以目前6S 的 LCM 規格
Sharp 的 IGZO 技術應該就能做到了
但背光LED 顆數可能要比 LTPS 多
LGD 的 IGZO 成熟度則可能還沒這麼高
有可能是使用LTPS 出貨
反正只要符合水果規格即可
簡單說,LCM 不管是畫面資料 or 背光
能耗都是
IGZO > LTPS
此篇實驗只有關閉"背光",並無停止LCM 的 "畫面資料"
實際上 LCM 的能耗貢獻依舊未排除
(而且,到底哪家CPU 配 哪家LCM啊?)
所以除非有人能排除 LCM 和 電池製程的變異,不然此次CPU 門事件根本只是個笑話
※ 引述《dearevan (歸去,也無風雨也無晴)》之銘言:
: 自由時報的科技部門進行了實際測量
: 三星、台積電到底差多少??iPhone 6s Plus 處理器效能 PK !
: http://3c.ltn.com.tw/news/20932
: 在效能上互有勝負
: 在續航力方面則是台積電贏過三星8%
: http://3c.ltn.com.tw/news/20932?page=2
: 至於這次引起最多爭議的耗電量(電池續航力)部分,記者也以網路上引起爭議的
: Geekbench 3 軟體進行電量測試,在同一地點、同樣網路環境(中華電信 4G、WiFi
開
: 啟)、同樣螢幕設定(亮度全亮、測試期間螢幕不關閉)的條件下同時開啟測試,所得
到
: 的測試成績如下:
: 台積電處理器版本測試所得出的電池續航力時間為 4 小時 05 分,分數為 2453,三星
處
: 理器版本所得的測試時間為 3 小時 46 分,分數為 2266,兩者相差的時間為 19 分鐘
: 20 秒,約為(8%)左右,這個成績介在網友提供的數字(2-3 小時)跟蘋果公佈的
: 2-3% 之間。
: 記者也在同一條件下,在螢幕關閉的情況下進行測試,所得出的成績為台積電處理器版
本
: 為 7 小時 02 分,分數為 4228,而三星處理器版本為 6 小時 00 分,分數為 3605,
兩
: 者相差 1 小時 02 分(約 17%),在這部分差異就比較大,不過基本上應不會有人關
閉
: 背光在使用手機,所以這部分僅供參考。
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