群輝DS1821 WD HC550 16TB不相容 - 儲存設備
By Emma
at 2022-02-25T19:57
at 2022-02-25T19:57
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大家好:
家裡之前有一台DS216 Play DSM7.0.1-42218
原本使用HGST 4TB,後來想升級空間在南京買了兩顆WD HC550 18TB (RAID1)
用起來都沒有什麼問題
https://i.imgur.com/w7UkrWT.jpg
所以最近買的DS1821+ 就選擇 WD HC550 16TB
NAS有接UPS,最近也沒有不當關機
***【懶人重點摘要】***(2/26)
1.保固內建議使用Synology相容性清單內的硬碟
**請依型號查詢**
https://www.synology.com/zh-tw/compatibility
2.使用非相容性清單的硬碟,可能造成跟我一樣的問題
3.Support會請你先解決非相容性硬碟問題
4.Synology RMA 無法直接從你家寄到回維修站,需先送回經銷商
5.BTRFS 指出不建議用於Raid 5 Raid6,請審慎評估
【漫長噩夢-開始】
一開始沒事,結果不到幾天 硬碟就毀損了
https://i.imgur.com/iyWQ0Zh.jpg
後來我以為是硬碟問題,就用WD DataLifeGuard工具跑,也沒什麼問題
https://i.imgur.com/T4QH5h2.jpg
不死心再用 HD Tune 跑,也沒問題
https://i.imgur.com/rFDLMsq.jpg
【聯絡Synology Support】
群輝在技術支援過程中一直強調是硬碟不相容,但他們的清單中也沒有寫不相容
但他們還是願意換一台新的給我(花了兩周以上)
https://i.imgur.com/tdo0uqe.jpg
硬碟也換了新的回來....
序號完全都不一樣,測了SMART也都沒問題
我一開始以為BTRFS問題,因為BTRFS有聲明不建議用於RAID5 RAID6
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-Warning-RAID5-RAID6
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Status
https://i.imgur.com/WK6vJ7h.jpg
避免是BTFS搞鬼 我就改用EXT4+RAID6
第一周活跳跳, 空轉都沒事
https://i.imgur.com/cuGJ0rR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hrvaoFm.jpg
官方對於BTRFS回復】
https://i.imgur.com/e76CSS7.jpg
【新NAS到來】
我讓NAS在有硬碟的情況下沒有資料轉一周
沒有任何異常我就把資料拉回去了
想說太好了,正常跑了
結果好景不長,又葛闢了
https://i.imgur.com/QP22glj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nytpJ7C.jpg
【排除】
1.NAS RMA新的
2.硬碟廠商換新的
3.有UPS
【可能原因】
Q1.Synology DSM 不支援
Q2.硬碟的Firmware不支援Synology DMS 或Firmware
Q3.主機板的Firmware有問題
Q4.有可能RAID5 RAID6支援性不好(感謝Maniaque1補充
Q5.Synology其他機種都是Intel Based,有可能是AMD問題(感謝Mnpctw補充
Q6.有鄉民測試SHR比較沒問題(感謝visa829 、catcat1492提供情報
【送修】
他們送修不能直接寄到總公司(RMA)
1.要先送去經銷商(原購買方)
2.經銷商送代理商
3.代理商送原廠
大概要花兩周時間,若包括開Ticket要花一個月
現在硬碟容量越來越大,大家都會一次買到位,選擇購買高容量硬碟16TB 18TB 20TB
規格表上寫【最大單一儲存空間容量* 108 TB】
針對產品的相容性清單中 他們最大只有檢測到16TB
沒有檢測18TB,他們只測Seagate及自家硬碟
很可惜沒有多測其他廠牌,消費者沒辦法選擇其他廠牌的硬碟
如果你跟我一樣選擇你喜歡的品牌,Support會先請你排除這個問題
注意:請依Synology產品搜尋、非依類別搜尋
https://i.imgur.com/pqsqy8v.jpg
網路上有很多人推薦使用其他更好的硬碟(企業級),更大的硬碟(18TB、20TB)
這部分要特別注意
有可能跟我一樣會無限迴圈Crash
【個人對不相容看法】
Synology相較其他競爭對手資安比較沒問題,介面也不錯所以選擇繼續購買
過去他們有很認真的去測不同品牌的硬碟(WD Seagate Toshiba)
會買到8Bay的使用者通常都是Power User
他還是有測其他廠牌10TB-14TB的硬碟,但不符合使用者期望
同樣是8Bay的產品 16TB &18TB 他們的競爭對手就測了很多不同品牌的硬碟
供消費者自行&自由選擇你喜歡的硬碟廠牌
https://i.imgur.com/7AMm3WS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4gFpW2z.jpg
這點Synology應該要向競爭對手學習,提升並強化不同品牌硬碟之支援性。
但Synology目前銷量應該算蠻好的....
如果真的只限定某些品牌的硬碟才支援,不應該寫 相容性清單
應該直接跟Iphone MFi 一樣推認證硬碟
對於Synology客服體驗
我第一台NAS沒有聯絡過客服
我也很少看到分享客服體驗
1.沒有電話Support可以聯絡
2.Live Chat無法解決問題,會請你開Ticket
3.RMA物流耗時
4.非常不專業只會回罐頭訊息
他的客服其實沒有想像中的專業或理想,會一直鬼打牆
當你跟他用專業敘說專業,他只會一直丟罐頭訊息給你
有鄉民說
可能是訊號(ATA command)逾時才會觸發error
Synology的客服講不出半句專業,只會發罐頭信
但目前市場上沒有其他更好的選擇
所以只能委屈點...
【官方也承認不在清單中的代表他們沒有測試】
https://i.imgur.com/V1SLomc.jpg
【鄉民建議向WD尋求協助】(2/28)
配合時差所以我發了英文的Ticket,得到回覆是
若硬碟在一般電腦無法正常寫入/讀取或偵測則建議更換硬碟。
https://i.imgur.com/jErlXlP.jpg
不知道有沒有人跟我一樣碰到這個問題?
不知道您是怎麼解決的?
感謝各位
--
家裡之前有一台DS216 Play DSM7.0.1-42218
原本使用HGST 4TB,後來想升級空間在南京買了兩顆WD HC550 18TB (RAID1)
用起來都沒有什麼問題
https://i.imgur.com/w7UkrWT.jpg
所以最近買的DS1821+ 就選擇 WD HC550 16TB
NAS有接UPS,最近也沒有不當關機
***【懶人重點摘要】***(2/26)
1.保固內建議使用Synology相容性清單內的硬碟
**請依型號查詢**
https://www.synology.com/zh-tw/compatibility
2.使用非相容性清單的硬碟,可能造成跟我一樣的問題
3.Support會請你先解決非相容性硬碟問題
4.Synology RMA 無法直接從你家寄到回維修站,需先送回經銷商
5.BTRFS 指出不建議用於Raid 5 Raid6,請審慎評估
【漫長噩夢-開始】
一開始沒事,結果不到幾天 硬碟就毀損了
https://i.imgur.com/iyWQ0Zh.jpg
後來我以為是硬碟問題,就用WD DataLifeGuard工具跑,也沒什麼問題
https://i.imgur.com/T4QH5h2.jpg
不死心再用 HD Tune 跑,也沒問題
https://i.imgur.com/rFDLMsq.jpg
【聯絡Synology Support】
群輝在技術支援過程中一直強調是硬碟不相容,但他們的清單中也沒有寫不相容
但他們還是願意換一台新的給我(花了兩周以上)
https://i.imgur.com/tdo0uqe.jpg
硬碟也換了新的回來....
序號完全都不一樣,測了SMART也都沒問題
我一開始以為BTRFS問題,因為BTRFS有聲明不建議用於RAID5 RAID6
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-Warning-RAID5-RAID6
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Status
https://i.imgur.com/WK6vJ7h.jpg
避免是BTFS搞鬼 我就改用EXT4+RAID6
第一周活跳跳, 空轉都沒事
https://i.imgur.com/cuGJ0rR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hrvaoFm.jpg
官方對於BTRFS回復】
https://i.imgur.com/e76CSS7.jpg
【新NAS到來】
我讓NAS在有硬碟的情況下沒有資料轉一周
沒有任何異常我就把資料拉回去了
想說太好了,正常跑了
結果好景不長,又葛闢了
https://i.imgur.com/QP22glj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nytpJ7C.jpg
【排除】
1.NAS RMA新的
2.硬碟廠商換新的
3.有UPS
【可能原因】
Q1.Synology DSM 不支援
Q2.硬碟的Firmware不支援Synology DMS 或Firmware
Q3.主機板的Firmware有問題
Q4.有可能RAID5 RAID6支援性不好(感謝Maniaque1補充
Q5.Synology其他機種都是Intel Based,有可能是AMD問題(感謝Mnpctw補充
Q6.有鄉民測試SHR比較沒問題(感謝visa829 、catcat1492提供情報
【送修】
他們送修不能直接寄到總公司(RMA)
1.要先送去經銷商(原購買方)
2.經銷商送代理商
3.代理商送原廠
大概要花兩周時間,若包括開Ticket要花一個月
現在硬碟容量越來越大,大家都會一次買到位,選擇購買高容量硬碟16TB 18TB 20TB
規格表上寫【最大單一儲存空間容量* 108 TB】
針對產品的相容性清單中 他們最大只有檢測到16TB
沒有檢測18TB,他們只測Seagate及自家硬碟
很可惜沒有多測其他廠牌,消費者沒辦法選擇其他廠牌的硬碟
如果你跟我一樣選擇你喜歡的品牌,Support會先請你排除這個問題
注意:請依Synology產品搜尋、非依類別搜尋
https://i.imgur.com/pqsqy8v.jpg
網路上有很多人推薦使用其他更好的硬碟(企業級),更大的硬碟(18TB、20TB)
這部分要特別注意
有可能跟我一樣會無限迴圈Crash
【個人對不相容看法】
Synology相較其他競爭對手資安比較沒問題,介面也不錯所以選擇繼續購買
過去他們有很認真的去測不同品牌的硬碟(WD Seagate Toshiba)
會買到8Bay的使用者通常都是Power User
他還是有測其他廠牌10TB-14TB的硬碟,但不符合使用者期望
同樣是8Bay的產品 16TB &18TB 他們的競爭對手就測了很多不同品牌的硬碟
供消費者自行&自由選擇你喜歡的硬碟廠牌
https://i.imgur.com/7AMm3WS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4gFpW2z.jpg
這點Synology應該要向競爭對手學習,提升並強化不同品牌硬碟之支援性。
但Synology目前銷量應該算蠻好的....
如果真的只限定某些品牌的硬碟才支援,不應該寫 相容性清單
應該直接跟Iphone MFi 一樣推認證硬碟
對於Synology客服體驗
我第一台NAS沒有聯絡過客服
我也很少看到分享客服體驗
1.沒有電話Support可以聯絡
2.Live Chat無法解決問題,會請你開Ticket
3.RMA物流耗時
4.非常不專業只會回罐頭訊息
他的客服其實沒有想像中的專業或理想,會一直鬼打牆
當你跟他用專業敘說專業,他只會一直丟罐頭訊息給你
有鄉民說
可能是訊號(ATA command)逾時才會觸發error
Synology的客服講不出半句專業,只會發罐頭信
但目前市場上沒有其他更好的選擇
所以只能委屈點...
【官方也承認不在清單中的代表他們沒有測試】
https://i.imgur.com/V1SLomc.jpg
【鄉民建議向WD尋求協助】(2/28)
配合時差所以我發了英文的Ticket,得到回覆是
若硬碟在一般電腦無法正常寫入/讀取或偵測則建議更換硬碟。
https://i.imgur.com/jErlXlP.jpg
不知道有沒有人跟我一樣碰到這個問題?
不知道您是怎麼解決的?
感謝各位
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