媽媽被當肥羊宰-2 - 手機討論

By Valerie
at 2017-07-14T09:37
at 2017-07-14T09:37
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睡個覺起來那麼多人是怎樣,都不用睡喔,好啦我來一個一個回有疑問的部分還有板友質
疑的部分,純粹討論
首先
台灣電信+通訊行的密度已超過小7全家的數量約8000家
那可以想一個問題,一年會消費小7全家幾次,跟去通信行的的次數是一樣的嗎,答案應
該很清楚
一天一家通訊行大多3-5個客人就滿多了,一個人做從早上11點定到晚上9點,店租點好一
點的點就是5w+自己月薪微薄的3w
一個月不算其他就是8w的開銷
一天開門就是要丟三千塊出去
加盟電信門市一家請最少三個人,一個人3萬給你加盟金加押金大概一個月大概15萬開銷
跑不掉
一天開門就要丟五千塊出去
當然台灣電信門市真的太多了,僧多粥少,每天都有人在倒不意外,歡迎鄉民集資開店,
這樣就不怕被噱了? XD
※ 原文網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MobileComm/M.1499964339.A.EB9.html
也是賺10k,40門20K
一個月45w扣房租水電四個小姐還賺20萬,有沒有興趣開一間,
對了背後還有一間公司包含物流,手機倉庫,會計,業務,上線中心要養大概50個人以上
喔,還不包含容易賠錢的系統加盟店
台灣有分北中南區大概40個門號盤商就是有這種額外議價能力,“一般通訊行” “非”
系統加盟門市都是差不多拿到這種機加佣的價格約13k,通訊行就是靠這些盤商活下來的
,沒有議價能力,只有比價能力,原文所說的是“一般系統加盟門市”所能拿得到的“機
+佣金”,因為並不清楚原po爸媽是在那裡辦的~
你有困難私訊我可以跟你說現在續約行情
噓 childeviler2: 把人當羊宰就承認阿,照你這樣說,下次家樂福不就要 07/14 09:01
→ childeviler2: 收門票了?免費冷氣茶水不用錢喔? 07/14 09:01
就說了 , 幫你設定手機是應該的,教你也是應該的,有問題幫你處理也是應該的,因為
我有賺你錢,不管妳肥不肥,都要一視同仁。
costco有收門票,家樂福也可以考慮跟進,家樂福收門票我看要潮到出水了
推 bhis : 人家又沒不關心父母合約,是父母先說要他辦,後來 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 又自己跑去當肥羊。但父母就不缺那個錢,一直要逼 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 父母去辦np拿高折扣有啥意思 07/14 09:19
推 jonor : 中肯 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 才幾千就不在乎,比較在乎朋友的交情,價值觀不同 07/14 09:20
→ bhis : 而已 07/14 09:22
我沒看過原文,所以只能猜測一下,有時候真的是價值觀問題,出了ptt之後誰跟你退多
少,多羊什麼的
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疑的部分,純粹討論
首先
台灣電信+通訊行的密度已超過小7全家的數量約8000家
那可以想一個問題,一年會消費小7全家幾次,跟去通信行的的次數是一樣的嗎,答案應
該很清楚
一天一家通訊行大多3-5個客人就滿多了,一個人做從早上11點定到晚上9點,店租點好一
點的點就是5w+自己月薪微薄的3w
一個月不算其他就是8w的開銷
一天開門就是要丟三千塊出去
加盟電信門市一家請最少三個人,一個人3萬給你加盟金加押金大概一個月大概15萬開銷
跑不掉
一天開門就要丟五千塊出去
當然台灣電信門市真的太多了,僧多粥少,每天都有人在倒不意外,歡迎鄉民集資開店,
這樣就不怕被噱了? XD
※ 原文網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MobileComm/M.1499964339.A.EB9.html
推 newdreams : 推...07/14 00:48
推 charles520 : 有道理,我也覺得服務是要成本的。07/14 00:48
推 qaz057628123: 這篇中肯 推07/14 00:52
推 wac08 : 要是每天都能碰到這樣浪漫的人就好了。07/14 00:53
推 chenernest : 推~幫家人處理手機能體會那是需要滿多心力的...07/14 00:53
→ RONC : 給箭頭 忠孝地O很跩 但忠孝O東教我爸教到會07/14 00:55
→ RONC : 我不覺得服務一定會因為價錢打折或提升07/14 00:56
服務有好有壞,遇到好店員真棒 → leopika : 地標沒房租沒小姐沒冷氣?07/14 00:57
→ leopika : 你沒看到的第一篇有提到,原po早知道他媽已到期,07/14 00:57
→ leopika : 他爸媽想給朋友業績,裝忙要原po過2週再一起去辦,07/14 00:57
→ leopika : 然後爸媽就偷偷去,不是原po不處理07/14 00:57
推 kutkin : 服務哪有這麼高成本,笑了。07/14 00:58
噓 wac08 : np 999綁30個月,退傭3990還不叫羊?真夠浪漫的了07/14 00:58
說的有道理 → hellojames : 看到第一篇你就不會扣這麼大頂帽子了07/14 00:58
→ leopika : 不是賺5k,是「多」賺5k,你當地標佛心公司零利潤?07/14 00:58
老實說敢標退佣標那麼高的真他媽佛心,一門只賺你3-500你敢相信,一天20門 也是賺10k,40門20K
一個月45w扣房租水電四個小姐還賺20萬,有沒有興趣開一間,
對了背後還有一間公司包含物流,手機倉庫,會計,業務,上線中心要養大概50個人以上
喔,還不包含容易賠錢的系統加盟店
推 Hrzon : 會嗎我看地標 還是有一堆奧客硬坳店員教他的…07/14 00:59
台灣的服務是應該的,就是他媽我來消費就是大爺,你就要給我服務到好。 推 shanaandlai : 先把高成本服務端出來吧....望向台灣旅遊業07/14 00:59
→ wac08 : 前面板友查過台哥DM續約999X24個月,至少都退7800了 07/14 01:00
笑死,999續24有6xxx就偷笑 → opnash : 服務一人算1000好了 一天10人 1個月200人 員工有領207/14 01:01
→ opnash : 0萬嗎07/14 01:01
沒那麼多人在辦手機啦 → wac08 : 你跟我說遠傳NP 999X30個月,只有9000?07/14 01:01
一般加盟店np999/30 差不多就9-10k啦,懷疑喔? 推 kutkin : 呆 遠傳 30 999 退 14300 07/14 01:01
哪個有跟盤商談額外bonus的,還有一些咩角不方便說 推 autokey : 原P也是一片孝心我懂~不完全是錢~總之多溝通吧^^"07/14 01:02
→ opnash : 既然沒領20萬 那服務多收這麼多錢 合理嗎07/14 01:02
房東領很多啦,妳去跟台灣的房東說啦 → kutkin : 這個去查價跟台星188(退500)差額就知道多少了07/14 01:02
→ leopika : 如果地標只靠簽約量就能每一門號多拿4k07/14 01:04
→ leopika : 那只能代表其他通訊行沒競爭力活該被淘汰 07/14 01:04
哦,你說除了地x大家都是垃圾囉,沒有啦! 台灣有分北中南區大概40個門號盤商就是有這種額外議價能力,“一般通訊行” “非”
系統加盟門市都是差不多拿到這種機加佣的價格約13k,通訊行就是靠這些盤商活下來的
,沒有議價能力,只有比價能力,原文所說的是“一般系統加盟門市”所能拿得到的“機
+佣金”,因為並不清楚原po爸媽是在那裡辦的~
推 RONC : 嗯...一天一個店員能辦到10人是奇蹟了吧07/14 01:04
→ leopika : 拜託4k又可以多帶一支828了07/14 01:05
噓 wac08 : 不可能只差4k,光續約24月就差4k了,何況是np30月 07/14 01:06
→ pujos : 999哪來780007/14 01:06
推 garretspaz : 父母開心最重要,原po沒必要事後鞭屍,不是什麼事情07/14 01:07
→ garretspaz : 都像錢一樣可以量化 07/14 01:07
→ pujos : 明明就3.4000而已07/14 01:07
推 kutkin : 自己去查某呆....07/14 01:08
→ pujos : 這還是算折新機的價碼,去年份的剩兩千07/14 01:08
→ pujos : 哪一間台哥大續約999退7800的07/14 01:09
→ kutkin : [公告] 退佣討論僅限規則不涉及店家名稱廣告07/14 01:09
噓 mike0608 : 地標會教 而且態度不錯 你是不是沒去過地標就來發文07/14 01:09
我去過的地標應該比你多間?大多都不設定的,除非沒客人不然店員佛心幫他按個讚 → kutkin : 約到期的999台哥np遠傳30個月07/14 01:10
噓 abelyi100 : 拜託摳一點就算了,摳到那種程度根本已經是超級沒品07/14 01:10
→ abelyi100 : 了好嗎!07/14 01:10
→ abelyi100 : 原文裡店員還說換iPhone6不划算欸你知道嗎07/14 01:10
→ abelyi100 : 人情不是這樣拿來糟蹋的,上萬元欸07/14 01:10
他賺的少當然不划算阿,又要教東教西的 → kutkin : 他是NP不是續約07/14 01:10
噓 wac08 : 台哥DM google就有了,伸手牌喔?07/14 01:10
推 RONC : 我個人去過忠孝地標...嗯..店員很不耐煩07/14 01:10
→ RONC : 還好我只是去攜碼拿現金走人,沒有多問問題07/14 01:11
噓 brownway : 你想的可真多呢 07/14 01:11
推 pujos : 我指上面某個唬爛的啊07/14 01:13
→ pujos : 台哥續約999退7800,真的笑話07/14 01:13
→ pujos : wac08: 前面板友查過台哥DM續約999X24個月,至少都 07/14 01:14
→ pujos : 退7800了07/14 01:14
噓 reality6699 : 這也能護航?欠噓07/14 01:15
同下 你有困難私訊我可以跟你說現在續約行情
噓 zandar : 現在是有哪間店,沒店租沒店員沒冷氣不給問的,連去家07/14 01:17
→ zandar : 樂福買都可以問好不好,護航護成這樣很難看07/14 01:18
是誰幫誰護航阿,不要幫我扣什麼帽子耶,我是認識哪個通訊行是嗎 推 kamichu : 名店要排隊排很久誒,有錢人花小錢真的沒差07/14 01:23
噓 hsukenhao : 喔喔喔喔07/14 01:23
→ kamichu : 不然叫原po去名店排看看好了,還是叫老人家去排隊07/14 01:25
推 kutkin : 名店哪有排很久 -.-07/14 01:25
→ kamichu : 而且又是給朋友做業績,我覺得管到父母的交友就太過07/14 01:26
→ kamichu : 了,錢也不是你賺的,父母要給朋友業績又如何07/14 01:26
噓 yisan7255 : 那個用續約價護航的 是在搞笑是不是?07/14 01:26
→ kamichu : 你會跟朋友計較這麼多嗎,如果你收入很高的話07/14 01:27
推 kutkin : 事實是根本不知道被賺這麼多 07/14 01:28
→ kutkin : 可能以為只差個500 100007/14 01:29
→ kutkin : 我沒接觸NP之前 就覺得只差500 1000 事實是500007/14 01:29
噓 hsukenhao : 嗯事實就是跟樓上說的一樣,不知道自己被宰還這麼07/14 01:30
→ hsukenhao : 肥,我媽也很傻眼,不過下一秒裝沒發生過07/14 01:30
→ kutkin : 一張電信約 比路上的信用卡拚死拚活的拉還多好多 07/14 01:30
→ kamichu : 那你不就認為沒退佣的都是棒槌?可是那佔多數誒07/14 01:30
推 pujos : 他老爸醫師,像在路上拚死拚活的嗎07/14 01:31
→ kutkin : 多數應該至少都還在地標價跟直營價中間...07/14 01:31
→ pujos : 五千也就只是五千,對部分人跟50.500意思一樣07/14 01:31
噓 p40403 : 就不是續約是NP,一直跳針07/14 01:32
→ kamichu : 多數根本就沒人去辦退佣,跟一般人比至少好多了 07/14 01:32
→ kutkin : 這個例子賺得太誇張07/14 01:32
→ kamichu : 你要嗆自己父母為什麼不去名店辦退佣永遠嗆不完07/14 01:32
→ kamichu : 實際上大部分的老人都是直接在直營店辦07/14 01:33
→ kamichu : 所有子女都會這麼嗆嗎?07/14 01:34
推 kutkin : 直接去直營應該還可以折9000 ^_^07/14 01:34
→ kutkin : 828....比直營還慘07/14 01:34
→ kamichu : 好像沒去退很多錢就是笨蛋就是羊一樣07/14 01:34
噓 wac08 : 問題直營店續約都退的比3990多,你還能護航?07/14 01:34
→ kamichu : 直營店才沒退好嗎07/14 01:35
→ wac08 : 比照直營店,我沒意見啊07/14 01:35
→ kamichu : 直營哪有退佣 07/14 01:35
→ wac08 : 連結都給你了,你不會查999續約能續什麼零元機喔?07/14 01:36
直營店可不可以做999/30 828 0元 答案是可以的哦 推 kutkin : 直營換個說法叫折讓07/14 01:36
噓 hsukenhao : 醫者仁心啊,又學佛的,內建河蟹系統。帶自己老婆去07/14 01:36
→ hsukenhao : 辦手機被當肥羊宰,兒子已經宣導好幾週了當耳邊風。07/14 01:36
→ hsukenhao : 我還記得上上禮拜日吃飯的時候,我媽說想要辦iphone 07/14 01:36
→ hsukenhao : 6跟我阿姨一樣,我在那邊講np多省多省我帶他去,我07/14 01:36
→ hsukenhao : 爸跟我媽說就讓你兒子帶你去,年輕人比較懂,殊不07/14 01:36
→ hsukenhao : 知,我爸現在只能已讀不回了,一定覺得我在唬爛 07/14 01:36
爸媽一定覺得你忙,自己去辦沒事兒沒事兒 → pujos : 計算機拿出來減,這是這一期的續約價,折多少?07/14 01:37
推 evic1224 : 推你 一堆老人一天到晚跑門市都說小孩很忙 沒空教 07/14 01:38
噓 hsukenhao : 原文已刪大家好好睡覺,我覺得把家裡長輩門號掛自己07/14 01:38
→ hsukenhao : 名下是個好辦法,謝謝~等以後不魯了一定這樣做07/14 01:38
這方法不錯! → pujos : 7800勒,算術體育老師教的噢07/14 01:39
噓 miniuser : 是賺太兇嗎07/14 01:39
→ kamichu : 跟你講啦,你傷了長輩的心,以為拿多好的手機有什07/14 01:43
→ kamichu : 麼用,手機不過就是個工具,你根本本末倒置07/14 01:43
推 yisan7255 : 樓上幹麻不把828貼出來? 怕被發現續24個月就零元了?07/14 01:51
30個月也可以做0元哦 推 hihi29 : hTC UU 原廠19900 這樣算下來折的比7800還多...07/14 01:52
→ pujos : 828就4000啊貼啥07/14 01:53
→ pujos : 某人說的是“退7800” 07/14 01:53
→ hihi29 : XZ 24900 折的比7800少...07/14 01:54
→ pujos : 用手機牌價算?這個有創意07/14 01:54
→ hihi29 : XZ premium 24900 折的比7800少...07/14 01:54
→ hihi29 : 直營門市不就用原廠牌價算 會給你用地標市價算折扣?07/14 01:55
噓 StrawberryCu: 認同,像是把錢匯給檢察官也是一種服務成本,不然帳 07/14 01:56
→ StrawberryCu: 號有被凍結的可能07/14 01:56
哈,聽不太懂耶 → kutkin : 樓上妙推07/14 01:58
噓 wac08 : 某p講再多,也改變不了黑店np比直營續約還貴的事實 07/14 02:00
→ pujos : 我根本只是在回你這個唬爛嘴而已07/14 02:08
→ pujos : 根本不在乎誰黑不黑07/14 02:08
噓 yisan7255 : 樓上臉都被hihi29打爆了07/14 02:09
→ pujos : 放假消息誤導版眾,阿不就很好意思07/14 02:09
這種人很多啦,可以搜尋我的文章中華電信那篇 → pujos : 999續約退7800,顆07/14 02:09
→ pujos : 用牌價算,那直營真的退超多的啦,佛心欸,怎麼不去07/14 02:10
噓 yisan7255 : 用續約護航 真的很有事07/14 02:12
推 hihi29 : 不然你在直營買空機 用牌價還是市價?07/14 02:15
噓 a780411 : 那篇原文真的很扯 999送82807/14 02:20
噓 born731105 : 幫忙噓 07/14 02:27
噓 jhangyu : 比直營還貴喔?給噓07/14 02:40
→ jhangyu : 比直營還貴喔?給噓07/14 02:40
噓 jajoy : 超扯的07/14 02:48
推 kutkin : 直營是用牌價算 補貼也是.... 07/14 02:49
噓 minagoroshi : www07/14 02:51
噓 carb2u : 到底誰准你腦補成親子關係不佳的07/14 02:57
XD 推 hikki52 : 推你07/14 03:23
噓 cityport : 通訊行的慣習被揭穿,森7707/14 04:00
→ vimeo : 不就他父母不在乎價差,不然原PO都講過了 07/14 04:19
→ vimeo : 每個人的時間成本、價值觀又不一樣,07/14 04:20
→ vimeo : 父母都幾歲的人了,講什麼偷偷去、被宰?07/14 04:20
→ vimeo : 原PO只是不開心 跟朋友講好要做業績 結果沒了吧 07/14 04:21
→ vimeo : 難不成每個人買水果都要跑到產地買產地價批發價?07/14 04:22
→ vimeo : 還是每個人買水果都要先花一大把時間把市價、批發價07/14 04:22
→ vimeo : 都查一遍?07/14 04:23
不錯 有道理 噓 FlyingShark : …07/14 04:42
噓 wac08 : 原PO跟朋友講好要做業績 <=這頂帽子真不是普通的大07/14 04:53
推 chonshon : 其實長輩買東西就是買個奇摩子07/14 05:02
→ chonshon : 原po一定是態度讓父母覺得難堪 所以父母才想自己去07/14 05:03
→ chonshon : 辦07/14 05:03
搞不好喔,不過也滿小劇場的 噓 vasia : 嗯07/14 06:06
噓 natsunagi : 護航的真難看 07/14 07:22
噓 dkchronos : 這護航還真是令人做噁07/14 07:28
噓 aegis0702 : 你是電信行老闆喔?07/14 07:28
不是,妳要贊助我開鄉民電信嗎 → aegis0702 : 就是黑還嘴硬?以為以這種口吻就感覺見解獨道?07/14 07:30
我是有賺一毛錢膩?我見解滿獨到的,謝謝你的讚美 推 axlfun : 不是每個人都在乎那幾千塊 07/14 07:51
推 eddie04 : 的確去過地標,合約簽完手機給你開機測試沒問題就07/14 07:53
→ eddie04 : 你了07/14 07:53
推 masterliy : 推07/14 07:54
推 eddie04 : 很多長輩真的不會低下頭問手機怎麼用07/14 07:54
→ eddie04 : 有人適時幫忙是很好的事情,多主動關心父母 07/14 07:55
噓 mnvcxz : .07/14 07:55
→ eddie04 : 錢再賺就有,不然就一開始一條龍帶去用07/14 07:55
→ eddie04 : 我覺得這篇文章寫得很有道理....07/14 07:56
噓 childeviler2: ...07/14 08:04
推 rkb84 : 台灣的通訊行這麼多間,真是很奇怪。07/14 08:12
噓 Bulls23 : 都說是去朋友那邊了你是在 07/14 08:14
噓 eric525498 : 你開心就好07/14 08:15
hi eric 噓 childeviler2: 把人當羊宰就承認阿,照你這樣說,下次家樂福不就要 07/14 09:01
→ childeviler2: 收門票了?免費冷氣茶水不用錢喔? 07/14 09:01
就說了 , 幫你設定手機是應該的,教你也是應該的,有問題幫你處理也是應該的,因為
我有賺你錢,不管妳肥不肥,都要一視同仁。
costco有收門票,家樂福也可以考慮跟進,家樂福收門票我看要潮到出水了
→ set21 : 下去領07/14 09:10
500 推 bhis : 人家又沒不關心父母合約,是父母先說要他辦,後來 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 又自己跑去當肥羊。但父母就不缺那個錢,一直要逼 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 父母去辦np拿高折扣有啥意思 07/14 09:19
推 jonor : 中肯 07/14 09:19
→ bhis : 才幾千就不在乎,比較在乎朋友的交情,價值觀不同 07/14 09:20
→ bhis : 而已 07/14 09:22
我沒看過原文,所以只能猜測一下,有時候真的是價值觀問題,出了ptt之後誰跟你退多
少,多羊什麼的
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